Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-06 Thread Radhelorn
Otared Kavian wrote: On 5 juil. 2005, at 18:25, Adam Lindsay wrote: David Rogers said this at Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:18:45 -0700: But if I change every times to lucida, typesetting reverts to cm (or lm or whatever it is) and no lucida appears. What am I missing? Have you bought the lucida f

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-06 Thread Otared Kavian
On 5 juil. 2005, at 18:25, Adam Lindsay wrote: David Rogers said this at Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:18:45 -0700: But if I change every times to lucida, typesetting reverts to cm (or lm or whatever it is) and no lucida appears. What am I missing? Have you bought the lucida fonts for TeX? Yes I

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-05 Thread Radhelorn
Hans Hagen wrote: Does: \usetypescript [adobekb] [ec] \usetypescript [postscript][ec] \loadmapfile[ec-base.map] \usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[times,12pt] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext work? If so, i'll add the map file loading to the adobekb typescripts No, i

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-05 Thread David Rogers
Adam Lindsay wrote: >David Rogers said this at Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:18:45 -0700: > >>But if I change every times to lucida, typesetting reverts to cm (or lm >>or whatever it is) and no lucida appears. What am I missing? > >Have you bought the lucida fonts for TeX? Ah. That would explain it. I made

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-05 Thread Adam Lindsay
David Rogers said this at Tue, 5 Jul 2005 09:18:45 -0700: >But if I change every times to lucida, typesetting reverts to cm (or lm >or whatever it is) and no lucida appears. What am I missing? Have you bought the lucida fonts for TeX? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-05 Thread David Rogers
Otared Kavian wrote: >Following David's experience, I tried this and now eveything works >fine > >%% times-good.tex >\usetypescript [adobekb] [ec] >\loadmapfile [context-base] >\usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding] >\setupbodyfont[times,12pt] This works for me. It also works if I chang

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-05 Thread Otared Kavian
On 5 juil. 2005, at 1:11, Adam Lindsay wrote: Hans Hagen said this at Mon, 4 Jul 2005 22:39:57 +0200: Does this one work? Yes. But then it worked for me before. (Have \loadtypescript[adobekb] [\defaultencoding] in my cont-sys) Hi, Following David's experience, I tried this and now

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Otared Kavian
On 4 juil. 2005, at 23:33, Hans Hagen wrote: Does: \usetypescript [adobekb] [ec] \usetypescript [postscript][ec] \loadmapfile[ec-base.map] \usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[times,12pt] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext work? If so, i'll add the map file loading to th

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Otared Kavian wrote: % times-bad.tex \usetypescript [adobekb] [\defaultencoding] \usetypescript [postscript][\defaultencoding] %\setupbodyfont [postscript] % with or without this line \usetypescript[times][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[times,12pt] \starttext \input knuth \stoptext Does:

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
David Rogers wrote: I deleted the pdftex.map file you mentioned, ran mktexlsr, and I still get the same effect. (I changed the font in my document from Times to Palatino, in case I was only getting a Times that had been badly generated on my first try with the map file still installed, but it no

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
David Rogers wrote: systems : print width forced to paper width (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex) (/usr/local/teTeX/share

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
David Rogers wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: Otared Kavian wrote: used to work fine, but now it results in ConTeXt creating, the first time, a whole bunch of things regarding fonts, and then the resulting PDF contains some ugly jagging bitmap-looking characters (interestingly this happens only to t

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Radhelorn
David Rogers wrote: OK, I tried this setup, and ConTeXt ran without stopping to complain, but (as Otared described, I guess) the font actually produced is very jaggy, both on screen and in print. My nostalgia for dot matrix fonts : resetting map file list fonts

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Otared Kavian
Hi Adam, Hans... ...and all of you who are trying to help us solve (and maybe understand) the intricacies of font management! Here is what I did: on Saturday I tried to answer David Rogers' question and so typeset an example file I had, before sending him. Unfortunately everything went wr

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread David Rogers
Hans Hagen wrote: > Otared Kavian wrote: >> used to work fine, but now it results in ConTeXt creating, the first >> time, a whole bunch of things regarding fonts, and then the >> resulting PDF contains some ugly jagging bitmap-looking characters >> (interestingly this happens only to the text char

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread David Rogers
Hans Hagen wrote: >David Rogers wrote: > >> OK, I tried this setup, and ConTeXt ran without stopping to complain, >> but (as Otared described, I guess) the font actually produced is very >> jaggy, both on screen and in print. My nostalgia for dot matrix printers >> is not as great as one might sup

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Adam Lindsay
David Rogers said this at Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:02:56 -0700: >I deleted the pdftex.map file you mentioned, ran mktexlsr, and I still >get the same effect. (I changed the font in my document from Times to >Palatino, in case I was only getting a Times that had been badly >generated on my first try with

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread David Rogers
Adam Lindsay wrote: >Hi Otared, > >What you mention sounds like a bug propagated by Hans last month. Take a >look at this thread: >20050610.172825.65f0c37f.html#20050610.172825.65f0c37f> > >(Assuming you're comfortable with the CLI, I'd suggest verifying

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
David Rogers wrote: OK, I tried this setup, and ConTeXt ran without stopping to complain, but (as Otared described, I guess) the font actually produced is very jaggy, both on screen and in print. My nostalgia for dot matrix printers is not as great as one might suppose. :-) So, do you get bit

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote: Sadly, that page relies on type-pre, which is deprecated! (Yes, the situation changes again.) hm, i can enable that one again, but will not give guarantees (some fonts have changed, for instance antikwa and we now have proper encoding support for latin modern so all those

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Hans Hagen
Otared Kavian wrote: It is right that handling fonts is extremely disappointing and instable... For instance, what used to work does not work anymore properly with the new version of ConTeXt I installed two weeks ago... much of this has nothing to do with context but with - switching from cm

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Adam Lindsay
Hi Otared, What you mention sounds like a bug propagated by Hans last month. Take a look at this thread: (Assuming you're comfortable with the CLI, I'd suggest verifying the bad file by navigating to

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread David Rogers
Adam Lindsay wrote: >Patrick Gundlach said this at Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:54:06 +0200: > >>Hello David, >> >>> I am new to ConTeXt, as my question is about to reveal. >> >>This questions can also come from more experienced users :) >> >>> Which set of instructions should I follow, in order to allow us

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Otared Kavian
On 4 juil. 2005, at 9:54, Patrick Gundlach wrote: Hello David, I am new to ConTeXt, as my question is about to reveal. This questions can also come from more experienced users :) Which set of instructions should I follow, in order to allow use of Palatino or Times, on Mac OS X, Gerben Wie

Re: [NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Adam Lindsay
Patrick Gundlach said this at Mon, 4 Jul 2005 09:54:06 +0200: >Hello David, > >> I am new to ConTeXt, as my question is about to reveal. > >This questions can also come from more experienced users :) > >> Which set of instructions should I follow, in order to allow use of >> Palatino or Times, on

[NTG-context] Re: Confusion with font instructions

2005-07-04 Thread Patrick Gundlach
Hello David, > I am new to ConTeXt, as my question is about to reveal. This questions can also come from more experienced users :) > Which set of instructions should I follow, in order to allow use of > Palatino or Times, on Mac OS X, Gerben Wierda's TeX distribution, latest > ConTeXt installed?