Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-19 Thread Peter Rolf
luigi scarso schrieb: On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Martin Schröder > wrote: 2009/10/17 Andreas Schneider mailto:ak...@gmx.de>>: > As far as I can tell, that seems to demand fully embedded fonts. As It doesn't. Subsets are allowed. See also http

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-19 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Martin Schröder wrote: > 2009/10/17 Andreas Schneider : > > As far as I can tell, that seems to demand fully embedded fonts. As > > It doesn't. Subsets are allowed. > > See also http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php?id=start:en > > What about pdf/a and opentype ? -- lui

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread Hans Hagen
R. Bastian wrote: - ich verwende den standard pdf reader adobe acrobat version 5 - Too old or too new ? ;-) standard on what? it's pretty old apart from object compression n

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 1:16 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > R. Bastian wrote: > > - nothing is wrong >> - but the pdf is not readable ... >> > > a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper > message when something is wrong > > ancient viewers might not support object compress

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread Barry Schwartz
Peter Rolf skribis: > donno exactly in which version of the pdf language object compression > was introduced (1.4-1.5?). you can try to set I think cross reference streams are 1.5, because this issue arose for me with fontforge, which needed conventional xref. > > \pdfminorversion 4 % default

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread Peter Rolf
R. Bastian schrieb: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:15:08 +0200 "R. Bastian" scribit: On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:16:09 +0200 Hans Hagen scribit: R. Bastian wrote: - nothing is wrong - but the pdf is not readable ... a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread R. Bastian
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 14:15:08 +0200 "R. Bastian" scribit: > On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:16:09 +0200 > Hans Hagen scribit: > > > R. Bastian wrote: > > > > > - nothing is wrong > > > - but the pdf is not readable ... > > > > a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper > >

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread R. Bastian
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 13:16:09 +0200 Hans Hagen scribit: > R. Bastian wrote: > > > - nothing is wrong > > - but the pdf is not readable ... > > a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper > message when something is wrong Thanks ! On my 2 systems (Debian & Kubuntu) p

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread Hans Hagen
R. Bastian wrote: - nothing is wrong - but the pdf is not readable ... a good test is pdftops (from the xpdf suite) as it will issue a proper message when something is wrong ancient viewers might not support object compression Hans

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread R. Bastian
On Sun, 18 Oct 2009 10:40:54 +0200 Taco Hoekwater scribit: > >> No problems here. Is there any reason not to use an uptodate context > >> version? > >> In a few weeks your version is celebrating it's third birthday... > >> > >> ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2009.4.22 int: english/en

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread luigi scarso
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM, R. Bastian wrote: > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:17:45 +0200 > Peter Rolf scribit: > > > R. Bastian schrieb: > > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:32:41 +0200 > > > Taco Hoekwater scribit: > > > > > > > > >> R. Bastian wrote: > > >> > > >>> Hello, > > >>> I send a little pdf

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread Taco Hoekwater
No problems here. Is there any reason not to use an uptodate context version? In a few weeks your version is celebrating it's third birthday... ConTeXt ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII fmt: 2009.4.22 int: english/english See http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals for the preferred method.

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-18 Thread R. Bastian
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 12:17:45 +0200 Peter Rolf scribit: > R. Bastian schrieb: > > On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:32:41 +0200 > > Taco Hoekwater scribit: > > > > > >> R. Bastian wrote: > >> > >>> Hello, > >>> I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] > >>> to a frien

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/10/17 Andreas Schneider : > As far as I can tell, that seems to demand fully embedded fonts. As It doesn't. Subsets are allowed. See also http://www.pdfa.org/doku.php?id=start:en Best Martin ___ If your ques

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-17 Thread Martin Schröder
2009/10/16 Hans Hagen : > font are always embedded but subsetted which is quite normal; the only > reason for full embedding is that they want to tweak your text afterwards > which is not what you want (given that they have the apps to deal with it). And full embedding may not be allowed by your f

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Andreas Schneider wrote: On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:09:28 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote: font are always embedded but subsetted which is quite normal; the only reason for full embedding is that they want to tweak your text afterwards which is not what you want (given that they have the apps to deal wit

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-17 Thread Andreas Schneider
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:09:28 +0200 Hans Hagen wrote: > font are always embedded but subsetted which is quite normal; the > only reason for full embedding is that they want to tweak your text > afterwards which is not what you want (given that they have the apps > to deal with it). > > protrudin

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-17 Thread Peter Rolf
R. Bastian schrieb: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:32:41 +0200 Taco Hoekwater scribit: R. Bastian wrote: Hello, I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] to a friend. He could not read it. Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? That ca

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-17 Thread R. Bastian
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 10:32:41 +0200 Taco Hoekwater scribit: > R. Bastian wrote: > > Hello, > > I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] > > to a friend. He could not read it. > > > > Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? > > That cannot be the p

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-17 Thread Taco Hoekwater
R. Bastian wrote: Hello, I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] to a friend. He could not read it. Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? That cannot be the problem. Is the pdf is unreadable, something in your compilation process is wrong, an

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-17 Thread R. Bastian
Hello, I send a little pdf made with Mk II and \setupbodyfont[sansserif, 10 pt] to a friend. He could not read it. Is there a way to control if the font has been embedded? -- René Bastian www.pythoneon.org www.musiques-rb.org _

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread William Adams
On Oct 16, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by side effects of fonts not being in a pdf file The argument to be able to fully include the font is tha

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> but you have not demonstrated >> that it's real . > >  "3.14159" hm, 3.14159 is rational and "3.14159" ∉ {'arguments', "arguments",...} """arguments""" ∈ {'arguments', "arguments",...} -- luigi

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> but you have not demonstrated > that it's real . "3.14159" ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinf

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 6:28 PM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real >> string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by >> side effects of fonts not being in a pdf file > >  "arguments" 'arguments' also, but you ha

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
> it's no problem to provide that feature in mkiv, but i need some real > string arguments as well as to be sure that i'll never be bothered by > side effects of fonts not being in a pdf file "arguments" ___ If y

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > luigi scarso wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz < >> thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de > wrote: >> >> >>If they fails, >>then we must find a solution . >> >> >>No

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz mailto:thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de>> wrote: If they fails, then we must find a solution . No, the mkii solution was on the level of the map-files (just use < it's no problem to provide that f

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz < thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de> wrote: > If they fails, >> then we must find a solution . >> > > No, the mkii solution was on the level of the map-files (just use > < applicable to mkiv. > > so "houston, we have a problem here" . I think we need

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Oct 16, 2009, at 2:16 PM, luigi scarso wrote: I work in a printer house so Before full embedding you can try with these political moves 1) "I give you all the fonts you need for free" 2) "I cannot completly embedd the fonts, because there are copyright isuues" OK, that sounds like a

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Oct 16, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, this seems like a very basic question, but I haven't found anything on the wiki and in the archive: I'm typesetting a book with mkiv, and the printer wants all fonts completely embedded. I knew how to do this

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz < thomas.schm...@uni-bonn.de> wrote: > Hi all, > > this seems like a very basic question, but I haven't found anything on the > wiki and in the archive: I'm typesetting a book with mkiv, and the printer > wants all fonts completely embedded. I kne

Re: [NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: Hi all, this seems like a very basic question, but I haven't found anything on the wiki and in the archive: I'm typesetting a book with mkiv, and the printer wants all fonts completely embedded. I knew how to do this in mkii, but what about mkiv? (Btw, I'm using \enab

[NTG-context] embed fonts

2009-10-16 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
Hi all, this seems like a very basic question, but I haven't found anything on the wiki and in the archive: I'm typesetting a book with mkiv, and the printer wants all fonts completely embedded. I knew how to do this in mkii, but what about mkiv? (Btw, I'm using \enableprotruding and \ena