Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2006-08-29 Thread Renaud AUBIN
Hans, do you agree to add \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldCaps] [LucidaBrightSmallcaps-Demi] to type-buy.tex (\starttypescript [serif] [lucida] [name]) ? Renaud ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2006-08-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Renaud AUBIN wrote: > Hi Hans, > > ! I can't find file `core-trf.tex'. > l.381 \input core-trf.tex > corrected - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | T

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2006-08-29 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > I uploaded a new beta. There is not so much new functionality (if so, > taco will report that when there is a new release), but > > - some reshuffling of code (in order to solve some dependency ugliness > in the load order) > - this is also a bit of a preparation for

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2006-08-29 Thread Renaud AUBIN
Hi Hans, ! I can't find file `core-trf.tex'. l.381 \input core-trf.tex Cheers, Renaud Hans Hagen a écrit : >Hi, > >I uploaded a new beta. There is not so much new functionality (if so, >taco will report that when there is a new release), but > >- some reshuffling of code (in order to solve so

[NTG-context] new beta

2006-08-29 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I uploaded a new beta. There is not so much new functionality (if so, taco will report that when there is a new release), but - some reshuffling of code (in order to solve some dependency ugliness in the load order) - this is also a bit of a preparation for replacing parts by lua enhanced

Re: [dev-context] Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-09-08 Thread Hans Hagen
Mojca Miklavec wrote: \definecharacter numbersign \companionsymbol{35} But please leave a possibility for something like \companionsymbol[1]{35} \companionsymbol[3]{49} ... (Not the exact syntax, only the principle, which should not set the limits to 256 again.) Otherwise we're

Re: [dev-context] Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-09-08 Thread Mojca Miklavec
>\definecharacter numbersign \companionsymbol{35} But please leave a possibility for something like \companionsymbol[1]{35} \companionsymbol[3]{49} ... (Not the exact syntax, only the principle, which should not set the limits to 256 again.) Otherwise we're at the beginning again o

[NTG-context] new beta

2005-09-07 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I'm uploading a beta. I replaces a few font things, i.e. il2 and pl0 support is now replaced by a combination of regimes and using ec and qx. Also, given that up install the latest latin modern zip, you can have condensed monospaced fonts: \definetypeface [modern] [tt] [mono] [modern-co

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-07-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Otared KAVIAN wrote: I just installed the new beta (or perhaps the new stable...) with Gerben Wierda's ConTeXt updater, but it only makes the format cont-nl.fmt and cont-en.fmt is missing. Even doing: sudo texexec --make --alone --all en nl metafun mptopdf does not create the right format. Is

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-07-21 Thread Otared KAVIAN
On 7/20/05, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently uploading a beta with the most recent discussed fixes / > extensions. Hi Hans, I just installed the new beta (or perhaps the new stable...) with Gerben Wierda's ConTeXt updater, but it only makes the format cont-nl.fmt an

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-07-20 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote: Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, I'm currently uploading a beta with the most recent discussed fixes / extensions. I've made a wiki page for the also uploaded current 2005.07.13 version, that does not contain the \startlines code, but does have most of the eh .. i did fix

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-07-20 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, I'm currently uploading a beta with the most recent discussed fixes / extensions. I've made a wiki page for the also uploaded current 2005.07.13 version, that does not contain the \startlines code, but does have most of the other bugfixes: http://contextgarden.net/

[NTG-context] new beta

2005-07-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I'm currently uploading a beta with the most recent discussed fixes / extensions. The questiosn with regards to verse/poems triggered me into looking into the lines mechanism and i found out that the odd/even indentation was broken. As a result i rewrote part if the indenter. So, the foll

Re: [NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-28 Thread Hans Hagen
Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 at 14:32:03+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 at 20:51:18+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Does somebody know which patches still have to be applied to texexec to get it working? in texexec.ini/rme set the engine switch to

Re: [NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-28 Thread Eckhart Guthöhrlein
On Wed, 27 Apr 2005 at 14:32:03+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: > >On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 at 20:51:18+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > > > >Does somebody know which patches still have to be applied to texexec to > >get it working? > > in texexec.ini/rme set the engine sw

Re: [NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-27 Thread Hans Hagen
Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 at 20:51:18+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Does somebody know which patches still have to be applied to texexec to get it working? in texexec.ini/rme set the engine switch to false As mentioned before, that didn't help. can you try todays alpha release? I d

Re: [NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-27 Thread Eckhart Guthöhrlein
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 at 20:51:18+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > >>>Does somebody know which patches still have to be applied to texexec to > >>>get it working? > >> > >>in texexec.ini/rme set the engine switch to false > > > > > >As mentioned before, that didn't help. > > can you try todays alpha releas

Re: [NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-22 Thread Hans Hagen
Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 at 10:44:08+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: Does somebody know which patches still have to be applied to texexec to get it working? in texexec.ini/rme set the engine switch to false As mentioned before, that didn't help. can you tr

Re: [NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-22 Thread Eckhart Guthöhrlein
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 at 10:44:08+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: > > >Does somebody know which patches still have to be applied to texexec to > >get it working? > > in texexec.ini/rme set the engine switch to false As mentioned before, that didn't help. > the problem is that

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-20 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote: Thomas A.Schmitz said this at Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:07:59 +0200: This problem went away with the very latest and greatest. Thanks Hans! Here, too. I can sit in web2c and build xetex formats that live in the web2c/xetex directory with the command: texexec --make --engine --xtx en

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-20 Thread Adam Lindsay
Thomas A.Schmitz said this at Wed, 20 Apr 2005 12:07:59 +0200: >This problem went away with the very latest and greatest. Thanks Hans! Here, too. I can sit in web2c and build xetex formats that live in the web2c/xetex directory with the command: texexec --make --engine --xtx en So it looks goo

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-20 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
This problem went away with the very latest and greatest. Thanks Hans! On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: My installation has lost the ability to regenerate formats in the latest beta: sudo texexec --make en de nl metafun TeXExec 5.3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 t

Re: [NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-20 Thread Eckhart Guthöhrlein
On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 at 10:44:08+0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: > > >Does somebody know which patches still have to be applied to texexec to > >get it working? > > in texexec.ini/rme set the engine switch to false I didn't have a texexec.ini before, so I copied texexec.rme t

Re: [NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-20 Thread Hans Hagen
Eckhart Guthöhrlein wrote: Does somebody know which patches still have to be applied to texexec to get it working? in texexec.ini/rme set the engine switch to false the problem is that engine support is handled (kin dof) by the tex engines but it seems to be broken for mpost Hans

[NTG-context] new beta (again)

2005-04-20 Thread Eckhart Guthöhrlein
Hi all, inline metapost generation was broken aftre upgrading context. I have seen the recent thread with several patches to texexec, so I updated to yesterday evening's beta in the hope that this would fix the problems. Unfortunately not. When trying to generate the mp graphic I get this error: s

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-19 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Thanks, Adam. At least some consolation... On Apr 19, 2005, at 2:43 PM, Adam Lindsay wrote: Thomas A.Schmitz said this at Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:55 +0200: My installation has lost the ability to regenerate formats in the latest beta: This is being discussed on the dev-context list:

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-19 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
On Apr 19, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Adam Lindsay wrote: Thomas A.Schmitz said this at Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:55 +0200: My installation has lost the ability to regenerate formats in the latest beta: yesterdays beta or todays? That was today's beta, sorry. This is being discussed on the

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-19 Thread David Munger
Solved. Insert the usual escaping command before line 2769 of texexec.pl: ... unless ( $dosish && !$escapeshell ) { $cmd =~ s/[^\\]\&/\\\&/io ; } $Problems = system("$cmd $MpMpName"); David ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http:/

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Adam Lindsay wrote: Thomas A.Schmitz said this at Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:55 +0200: My installation has lost the ability to regenerate formats in the latest beta: yesterdays beta or todays? This is being discussed on the dev-context list:

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-19 Thread David Munger
Le mardi 19 avril 2005 Ã 09:43 +0200, Hans Hagen a Ãcrit : > David Munger wrote: > > Hans, > > > > That's not enough. There is another problem when ConTeXt text has to be > > rendered from inside MetaPost graphics. Consider the following code: > > > > \starttext > > \startuseMPgraphic{mptest} > >

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-19 Thread Adam Lindsay
Thomas A.Schmitz said this at Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:18:55 +0200: >My installation has lost the ability to regenerate formats in the >latest beta: This is being discussed on the dev-context list: -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-19 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
My installation has lost the ability to regenerate formats in the latest beta: sudo texexec --make en de nl metafun TeXExec 5.3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 total run time : 1 seconds sudo fmtutil --byfmt cont-en.fmt fmtutil: no info for format `cont-en.fmt'. Clueless??? Thomas ___

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-19 Thread Hans Hagen
David Munger wrote: Hans, That's not enough. There is another problem when ConTeXt text has to be rendered from inside MetaPost graphics. Consider the following code: \starttext \startuseMPgraphic{mptest} label (btex test etex, origin); \stopuseMPgraphic \useMPgraphic{mptest} \stoptext Even with

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-18 Thread Hans Hagen
David Munger wrote: Thanks for trying, but it is not the correct way. Sorry for being unclear. The point is that shell escaping was not done in the proper way. Fix 1 used to do it in the configuration file (texexec.ini) which is basically a bad idea. Shell escaping has to be done properly by texexe

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-17 Thread David Munger
Hans, That's not enough. There is another problem when ConTeXt text has to be rendered from inside MetaPost graphics. Consider the following code: \starttext \startuseMPgraphic{mptest} label (btex test etex, origin); \stopuseMPgraphic \useMPgraphic{mptest} \stoptext Even with the patch for tex

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-16 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
OK, discarded texexec.ini and modified line 1505 as well. Does seem to work so far, thanks! Thomas On Apr 16, 2005, at 4:43 PM, David Munger wrote: Hi Thomas, Thanks for trying, but it is not the correct way. Sorry for being unclear. The point is that shell escaping was not done in the proper way

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-16 Thread David Munger
Hi Thomas, Thanks for trying, but it is not the correct way. Sorry for being unclear. The point is that shell escaping was not done in the proper way. Fix 1 used to do it in the configuration file (texexec.ini) which is basically a bad idea. Shell escaping has to be done properly by texexec. Tho

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
OK, I think I got the new beta working now under OS X. David Munger's suggestions were key (thanks a lot!). I had to apply both fixes, AFAICS: 1. Open $TEXMF/web2c/context/config/texexec.rme. line 68-69 are set TeXFormatFlag to & set MpFormatFlag to & and need to be modified like

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Oh, one more thing: interestingly, updating ConTeXt makes pdflatex break, too - in fact, every flavor of TeX that use pdfetex. pdfetex somehow reads a mapfile that ConTeXt provides and then complains about missing font. So I have to use the prior beta. delete the pdftex,m

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Hans Hagen
David Munger wrote: Maybe use: $cmd =~ s/([^\\])\&/$1\\\&/io ; ok, let's give that a try; can those with problem stest this patch? Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 |

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
OK, will look at it later tonight. Could also be a problem with my shell (I use zsh both on OS X and on linux). But now I'm off to a chorus rehearsal (Monteverdi, wonderful). Best Thomas On Apr 15, 2005, at 5:15 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: David Munger wrote: Hi Thomas, You may try to look in your tex

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread David Munger
Hans, > unless ( $dosish && ! $escapeshell ) { > $cmd =~ s/[^\\]\&/\\\&/io ; > } The space before the & gets replaced by a \ so that cmd was: ... -int=batchmode &cont-en and becomes: ... -int=batchmode\&cont-en Maybe use: $cmd =~ s/([^\\])\&/$1\\\&/io ; David

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Oh, one more thing: interestingly, updating ConTeXt makes pdflatex break, too - in fact, every flavor of TeX that use pdfetex. pdfetex somehow reads a mapfile that ConTeXt provides and then complains about missing font. So I have to use the prior beta. ah, i see, this pdf

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Hans Hagen
David Munger wrote: Hi Thomas, You may try to look in your texexec.ini (run "kpsewhich texexec.ini" to get the path) for those lines: set TeXFormatFlag to & set MpFormatFlag to & and replace them with those: set TeXFormatFlag to \& set MpFormatFlag to \& i have this co

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Hans Hagen
David Munger wrote: Hi Thomas, You may try to look in your texexec.ini (run "kpsewhich texexec.ini" to get the path) for those lines: set TeXFormatFlag to & set MpFormatFlag to & and replace them with those: set TeXFormatFlag to \& set MpFormatFlag to \& It solved it f

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Gerben Wierda
i-Package configure ends with fmtutil: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/cont-en.fmt installed. fmtutil: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/cont-nl.fmt installed. fmtutil: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/mptopdf.fmt installed. fmtutil: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Oh, one more thing: interestingly, updating ConTeXt makes pdflatex break, too - in fact, every flavor of TeX that use pdfetex. pdfetex somehow reads a mapfile that ConTeXt provides and then complains about missing font. So I have to use the prior beta. Best Thomas On Apr 15, 2005, at 4:03 PM, D

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Thanks David, modifying texexec.rme and saving it as texexec.ini solved some of the problems. Here's my story: 1. output of texexec --version unchanged: texexec --version TeXExec 5.3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texexec : TeXExec 5.3.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread David Munger
Hi Thomas, You may try to look in your texexec.ini (run "kpsewhich texexec.ini" to get the path) for those lines: set TeXFormatFlag to & set MpFormatFlag to & and replace them with those: set TeXFormatFlag to \& set MpFormatFlag to \& It solved it for me. Regard

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread David Munger
I tried today's beta too. Got exactly the same output as Otared's. Regards, David Otared Kavian : > Then after making a texhash, ran again context and ended up with an > error, which is not exactly as yours: > No pages of output. > Transcript written on cont-en.log.' instead of a fi

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Yes, I tried that one too - same result. Must have somthing to do with subpaths, also a problem with mapfiles. When I try the latest, my own maps are not taken into account. Thomas On Apr 15, 2005, at 10:53 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Hmm, I just downloaded the latest and great

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Otared Kavian wrote: Since I don't have time to understand what is wrong right now, I am going back to the previous version of context... in your texmf.cnf file, there should be lines like: TEXFORMATS= .;$TEXMF/web2c/{$ENGINE,} MFBASES = .;$TEXFORMATS MPMEMS= .;$TEXFORMATS TEXPOO

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Peter, thanks for the hint. The very latest version even has 2005-04-15 09:05. Still no go - same errors. For the time being, I reverted to the previous beta as well. Otared: right, I got this error too and simply removed the xetex-format (never used it anyway). I even could make ConTeXt work b

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Hmm, I just downloaded the latest and greatest beta, and it seems to be broken. The output of "texexec --version" is can you try todays upload? after that we can look into the details; it may have to do with the engine subpath features Hans ---

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Peter Rolf
Hello Thomas, i have installed the latest beta without any problems on XP. There is also a slightly newer beta at pragma (2005-04-14 22:02). Give it a try... Greets, Peter Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Sorry to be a pest, but am I the only one seeing these problems? Has everyone else installed the lates

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-15 Thread Otared Kavian
At 8:29 +0200 15/04/05, Thomas A.Schmitz wrote: Every run of context hangs with this message: Running `ConTeXt' on `text' with ``texexec --pdf --nonstop --texutil text.tex'' TeXExec 5.3.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 executable : pdfetex format : cont-en

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-14 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Sorry to be a pest, but am I the only one seeing these problems? Has everyone else installed the latest beta without problems? I thought that I may have made a silly mistake installing, so I installed again using Gerben's method, but I get the same error. For all purposes, this beta does seem t

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-14 Thread Johan Sandblom
is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite" -- Bertrand Russell - Original Message - From: Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:32 pm Subject: Re: [NTG-context] new beta > Johan Sandblom wrote:

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Johan Sandblom wrote: ... Comparing the two, the debian testing distribution has never been less than stable while gentoo testing is updated faster, but has given me trouble at some points. Sorry for the noise if this is inappropriate information for this list, no problem; here i have been using

Re: [NTG-context] new beta [OFF TOPIC]

2005-04-14 Thread luigi.scarso
Johan Sandblom wrote: Sorry for going off topic, but since it is a concern ... Using a linux distribution with an intelligent package/dependencies handling system such as Gentoo or Debian would end your updating woes for all time. In debian testing apt-get install inkscape urpmq,urpmi, etc unde

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-14 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Johan Sandblom wrote: Sorry for going off topic, but since it is a concern ... > > apt-get install inkscape > > downloads and installs inkscape 0.41 and updates all dependencies > automatically and in Gentoo mandrake has urpmi: urpmi inkscape which does installs, lookups, dependancy checks & aut

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-14 Thread Johan Sandblom
+46851776108 17176 Stockholm m +46735521477 Sweden "What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the will to find out, which is the exact opposite" -- Bertrand Russell - Original Message - From: Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, April 14, 20

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-14 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Hmm, I just downloaded the latest and greatest beta, and it seems to be broken. The output of "texexec --version" is texexec --version TeXExec 5.3.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texexec : TeXExec 5.3.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005 texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.0 - C

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-14 Thread Hans Hagen
Paul Tremblay wrote: Is inkscape the beast that gave you so much trouble with the glib library? I know I tried to install it and gave up after I couldn't install glib. indeed, but since i use windows as production platform i can wait till i've updated the linux machines; i have no idea how well i

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-13 Thread Paul Tremblay
On Wed, Apr 13, 2005 at 10:33:18PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > concerning the beta, i hope that engine path support is now better in > texexec; there is also a new version of pstopdf (for the moment called > newpdftops); when inkscape is installed (v 0.41) you mag give svg to pdf > a try Is in

[NTG-context] new beta

2005-04-13 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, There is a new beta as well as a new magazine: http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/magazines/mag-0010.pdf concerning the beta, i hope that engine path support is now better in texexec; there is also a new version of pstopdf (for the moment called newpdftops); when inkscape is installed (v 0

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2004-12-20 Thread Dan Luecking
At 11:59 AM 12/17/2004, you wrote: Hi, I uploaded a new beta with a couple of fixed discussed last weeks as well as a better mp to pdf handling of pen based graphics. That's goog. Hans ps. http://www.pragma-ade.com/2004.pdf Happy holidays to you, too. And now I must unsubscribe... Goodbye all, Da

[NTG-context] new beta

2004-12-17 Thread Hans Hagen
Hi, I uploaded a new beta with a couple of fixed discussed last weeks as well as a better mp to pdf handling of pen based graphics (thanks to Daniel L.) Hans ps. http://www.pragma-ade.com/2004.pdf -

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