On 10/19/18 8:24 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:48 PM Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>
> I tried to experiment (modifying TeX Gyre Pagella from 1000 to
> UPM), but for some reason, I wasn’t able to load the font.
>
> hm.
> Weird.
Many thanks for your in-depth explaination, L
Luigi,
Many thanks for this information-packed summary, it’s very uselful and
I even learned a thing or two :-)
Best,
Arthur
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If your question is of interest to others as well, pl
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:48 PM Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>
> I tried to experiment (modifying TeX Gyre Pagella from 1000 to
> UPM), but for some reason, I wasn’t able to load the font.
>
hm.
Weird.
Assuming ttx from fontools
$> ttx texgyrepagella-regular.otf
$> cp texgyrepagella-regular.ttx
On 10/18/18 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
> Let me go back an try to answer the original question:
> [...]
> Nothing more, nothing less.
Many thanks for your explanation, Taco.
I think the basic issue is clear to me now: different typefaces may have
different dimensions (when pri
On 10/18/2018 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Hi Pablo,
Let me go back an try to answer the original question:
On 15 Oct 2018, at 21:21, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
Dear list,
sorry for this basic question, but what defines the size in a font?
The font designer decides on the ‘natural’ size of
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:15 PM Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 10/17/18 11:13 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
> > [...]
> > Nice to/must have :
> >
> > Fonts & Encodings
> > Book by Yannis Haralambous
> >
> > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/
> > and pdf at
> >
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/
Hi Pablo,
Let me go back an try to answer the original question:
> On 15 Oct 2018, at 21:21, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>
> Dear list,
>
> sorry for this basic question, but what defines the size in a font?
The font designer decides on the ‘natural’ size of the font.
There are two parts to this.
On 10/18/2018 9:54 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:14:21PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
I tried to show that the em square is the fixed measure.
It’s not. You misunderstand. You sent an example
\startTEXpage[offset=1em]
\framed{M}
\fra
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 06:14:21PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> I tried to show that the em square is the fixed measure.
It’s not. You misunderstand. You sent an example
\startTEXpage[offset=1em]
\framed{M}
\framed{\tfxx M}
\framed{\tfd M}
\sto
On 17/10/2018 11:10, Alan Braslau wrote:
On 17/10/2018 11:05, Hans Hagen wrote:
And compare it to sizing dogs or so ... what do you measure? Its tail
or its legs.
Of course, horses are measured in "hands"...
Alan
On 17/10/2018 11:05, Hans Hagen wrote:
And compare it to sizing dogs or so ... what do you measure? Its tail or
its legs.
Or, for Arthur: neck circumference, arm length, shirttail length,
shoulder width, waist size, ...
Alan ;-)
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On 10/17/2018 6:14 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
On 10/17/18 11:02 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:48:41PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
[...]
It’s less clear what you’re trying to do next:
[...]
What are you trying to demonstrate with this? If you change the size
o
On 10/17/18 11:13 AM, luigi scarso wrote:
> [...]
> Nice to/must have :
>
> Fonts & Encodings
> Book by Yannis Haralambous
>
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/
> and pdf at
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/typography/opbuildpdf/TOC.pdf?branch=live
Many thanks for the references, L
On 10/17/18 11:02 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:48:41PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> [...]
> It’s less clear what you’re trying to do next:
>> [...]
> What are you trying to demonstrate with this? If you change the size
> of the font, obviously the glyphs have di
On 10/17/18 12:59 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 10/16/2018 7:48 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>
>> I tried to experiment (modifying TeX Gyre Pagella from 1000 to
>> UPM), but for some reason, I wasn’t able to load the font.
> Messing with such value is asking for problems and you can be sure that
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 7:51 PM Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> On 10/15/18 10:59 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> >>> [...]
> >>> If two fonts have the same size, I think there may be a dimension which
> >>> has the same length in both. Which one is this?
> >>
> >> None. The font decides about its size.
> > act
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 07:48:41PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
> I cannot claim that I understand his explanation, but it seems that
> there is something about the em quad
The em quad has the same width as the font size, that’s correct. But
it still doesn’t mean that any part of any glyph in
Am Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:07:38 +0200 schrieb Arthur Reutenauer:
> I quite liked the idea of the font itself deciding on its size, of its
> own free will ;-)
;-) That's an application of Gödel's incompleteness theorems: with
some level of complexity and lookups strange loops und true but
unproveable
On 10/16/2018 7:48 PM, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
I tried to experiment (modifying TeX Gyre Pagella from 1000 to
UPM), but for some reason, I wasn’t able to load the font.
Messing with such value is asking for problems and you can be sure that
I won't waste time on looking issues resulting fro
Am 2018-10-16 um 19:50 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez :
> On 10/15/18 10:59 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
[...]
If two fonts have the same size, I think there may be a dimension which
has the same length in both. Which one is this?
>>>
>>> None. The font decides about its size.
>> actually, the d
On 10/15/18 10:59 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> If two fonts have the same size, I think there may be a dimension which
>>> has the same length in both. Which one is this?
>>
>> None. The font decides about its size.
> actually, the designer ... anyway, one can compare 10pt dejavu with 10pt
On 10/15/18 10:02 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
> Am Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:21:32 +0200 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:
>> [...]
>> If two fonts have the same size, I think there may be a dimension which
>> has the same length in both. Which one is this?
>
> None. The font decides about its size.
Many thanks
On 10/16/2018 9:07 AM, Arthur Reutenauer wrote:
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:59:57PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
On 10/15/2018 10:02 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
None. The font decides about its size.
actually, the designer ...
I quite liked the idea of the font itself deciding on its size, of it
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:59:57PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 10/15/2018 10:02 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
>> None. The font decides about its size.
> actually, the designer ...
I quite liked the idea of the font itself deciding on its size, of its
own free will ;-)
To stress the point, ther
On 10/15/2018 10:02 PM, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
Am Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:21:32 +0200 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:
Dear list,
sorry for this basic question, but what defines the size in a font?
I mean, we can take TeX Gyre Bonum and TeX Gyre Adventor at twelve
points. x-height is different, M-width is
Am Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:21:32 +0200 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez:
> Dear list,
>
> sorry for this basic question, but what defines the size in a font?
>
> I mean, we can take TeX Gyre Bonum and TeX Gyre Adventor at twelve
> points. x-height is different, M-width is slightly different.
>
> I thought i
Dear list,
sorry for this basic question, but what defines the size in a font?
I mean, we can take TeX Gyre Bonum and TeX Gyre Adventor at twelve
points. x-height is different, M-width is slightly different.
I thought it was the same A-height, but it isn’t.
If two fonts have the same size, I th
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