Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-02-06 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
adding other drive letters is > contiguous. > > > > Dave > > * This is probably legacy thinking as I haven't run into this in many, > many years. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:li

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-31 Thread Kurt Buff
I don't ask permission, I notify the users and I take ownership and grant Administrators permissions, and make sure permissions are inherited. Once that's done, I offer to work with them to get the permissions rational. Normally that means moving subdirectories up the tree so that breaking inherit

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-31 Thread Charles F Sullivan
This happens almost every time. Someone who doesn't know what they're doing has the right to change permissions and they don't include Administrators. Usually the next issue I find is that when I try to take ownership and reset perms, there are stragglers, sometimes lots of them. It's good that you

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-31 Thread Michael Leone
Oh, the joys of special permissions on sub-folders ... Good thing I did an initial run using the /CREATE switch (thanks for that!). Found a number of errors, couldn't access destination folder. Checking the source folder permissions, I see that these have been set manually - not inherited, limit

RE: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Bud Durland
-- > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] > On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 2:10 PM > To: ntsysadm > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server > > Don't know about everybody, but I do it - be

RE: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Aakash Shah
. -Aakash Shah From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Joe Matuscak Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 10:51 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server Can't say I've tried multiple folders

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Joe Matuscak
Can't say I've tried multiple folders personally, but the "Tips and Tricks" page says so: https://www.freefilesync.org/manual.php?topic=tips-and-tricks Here's the page on scheduling a batch job: https://www.freefilesync.org/manual.php?topic=schedule-a-batch-job - On Jan 30, 2018, at 1:

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 4:40 PM, Joe Matuscak wrote: > > Lately I've been using FreeFileSync for this sort of thing over robocopy. > It seems much faster > when you're doing the full copy/incremental approach. > > https://www.freefilesync.org/ > Hmmm ... Robocopy took 11min for 11G; this utili

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Eric Wittersheim
Why not set up DFS and use DFS-R to copy the data? Migrate how you connect to the shares to a dfs namespace. Once initial replication is complete, change your folder targets to only the new server and retire the old one. On Jan 29, 2018 1:33 PM, "Michael Leone" wrote: > I'd like to impose once

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Jonathan Link
> Dave >> > * This is probably legacy thinking as I haven't run into this in many, >> many years. >> > >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf >> orum.com] On Behal

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Mike
letters is > contiguous. > > > > Dave > > * This is probably legacy thinking as I haven't run into this in many, > many years. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com]

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread geoff_taylor geoff_taylor
gt; Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 2:10 PM> To: ntsysadm > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server>> Don't know about everybody, but I do it - because I hate it when someone copies a ton of big files to the driver that data shares with the OS, and the machine chokes.

RE: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Webster
] On Behalf Of Michael Leone Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:29 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 10:23 PM, Kurt Buff mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com>> wrote: Youngsters these days... If I change the DVD/CD

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Leone
ave > > * This is probably legacy thinking as I haven't run into this in many, > many years. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists. > myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > > Sent: Monday, January 2

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Leone
>> systems. > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> There are 10 kinds of people in the world... > >> those who understand binary and those who don't. > >> > >> > >> > >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ > >> > >> > >&g

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-30 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 5:07 PM, Charles F Sullivan < charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> wrote: > By default it only copies changed files, no /a switch needed. > AH HA. Vital information/confirmation. Thanks. So if I do a /MIR this weekend, I should (theoretically) be able to do the same command, say ev

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Kurt Buff
forum.com] > On Behalf Of Kurt Buff > Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 2:10 PM > To: ntsysadm > Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server > > Don't know about everybody, but I do it - because I hate it when someone > copies a ton of big files to the driver

RE: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Dave Lum
ny, many years. -Original Message- From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Kurt Buff Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 2:10 PM To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server Don't know about everybody, but I do it - be

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Kurt Buff
I'll have to disagree here. I love DFSR, but I don't believe that DFSR is a great fit for this particular task. Initial configuration, and subsequent teardown, are just not worth the effort. Kurt On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Klaus Hartnegg wrote: > Am 29.01.2018 um 20:27 schrieb Michael Le

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Klaus Hartnegg
Am 29.01.2018 um 20:27 schrieb Michael Leone: I need to migrate everything (shares and user home folders) to a Win 2012 R2 Storage Server, and then retire the old server. Share definitions can be exported from the registry, and imported into the new server. If you want to minimize downtime

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Kurt Buff
tems. >> >> >> >> -- >> There are 10 kinds of people in the world... >> those who understand binary and those who don't. >> >> >> >> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ >> >> >> >> From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com >> [

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Charles F Sullivan
By default it only copies changed files, no /a switch needed. On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:15 PM, Michael Leone wrote: > On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Charles F Sullivan < > charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> wrote: > >> I always use the /mir option when doing a migration like that. The reason >> is I h

Fwd: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Joe Matuscak
Lately I've been using FreeFileSync for this sort of thing over robocopy. It seems much faster when you're doing the full copy/incremental approach. https://www.freefilesync.org/ FWIW, I doubt you'll get 4GB out of the NIC team since you'll be going from a single endpoint to another. I'd e

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Gantry Zettler
29, 2018 2:58 PM > *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com > *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server > > > > I always use the /mir option when doing a migration like that. The reason > is I have to do a "big" initial copy and then at least one delta co

RE: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Melvin Backus
ysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server I always use the /mir option when doing a migration like that. The reason is I have to do a "big" initial copy and then at least one delta copy. (I usually do the final copy after removing access by chang

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Jonathan Link
I’ve done robocopy /mir so that I can get big datasets overnight. As my transition window closes I repeat it so that by the switchover date I have a high degree of confidence that I’ve moved all of the data and don’t have files users have deleted in the interim. On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:22 PM Mic

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > Oh, yes > > My thoughts make the assumption that this will be done while users are > not in play. > Nope, Friday after hours. On the upcoming holiday weekend (boo!). > > If that's not true, there are a couple of things that will need to

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Kurt Buff wrote: > I'm hoping that the data is on a separate partition from the OS. > That's pretty critical. > Yes, indeed. :-) I'm not a total newbie ... All data is drive E:. OS is C:, applications are D: > > Some things to consider > > - /S is redundant t

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Leone
On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 2:57 PM, Charles F Sullivan < charles.sulliva...@bc.edu> wrote: > I always use the /mir option when doing a migration like that. The reason > is I have to do a "big" initial copy and then at least one delta copy. (I > usually do the final copy after removing access by chang

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Kurt Buff
Oh, yes My thoughts make the assumption that this will be done while users are not in play. If that's not true, there are a couple of things that will need to be adjusted. - Still consider doing a first run with the /CREATE switch. - Can't shut down the server service, but probably still sho

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Kurt Buff
I'm hoping that the data is on a separate partition from the OS. That's pretty critical. Some things to consider - /S is redundant to /E - use just the /E - /V will really slow down the copy job - I'd consider not using it, as I've found robocopy to be very robust. - If you shut down the server s

Re: [NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Charles F Sullivan
I always use the /mir option when doing a migration like that. The reason is I have to do a "big" initial copy and then at least one delta copy. (I usually do the final copy after removing access by changing share perms or removing the share entirely so no further changes are made.) If I don't use

[NTSysADM] Advice: migrate to new file server

2018-01-29 Thread Michael Leone
I'd like to impose once more for some advice and opinions. I have a Win 2008 R2 file server; I need to migrate everything (shares and user home folders) to a Win 2012 R2 Storage Server, and then retire the old server. Everything is one 1 drive, with 3 main folders (Shares,Users,Scans), total size i