the VMWare files and attach them to the host.
Mark
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 August 2008 01:46
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Backup Exec 12 VMs
Okay, I've just deployed my first VM using VMware Server - a
non-essential server so I could get a feel
AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 12 VMs
if only 1 Guest, and if you have spare BE agent license, I would just
throw the agent on the guest and back it up directly. Don't really ever
need to backup the host. (Assuming all the host does is VMware Server).
BE agents
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*From:* Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:02 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Backup Exec 12 VMs
if only 1 Guest, and if you have spare BE agent license, I would just throw
the agent on the guest and back it up directly. Don't
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
To back up the VMDK files, you will need a different tool. I think BE
has an option now for that, but we use RangerPro, which, as you said,
basically encapsulates the VM and can spot restore the entire VM to any
host. It is made by Vizioncore. They also
Ranger here. I couldn't get BE to work with VCB backups.
*From:* mqcarp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:03 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
To back up the VMDK files, you will need a different tool. I think BE has
an option now
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
How would you grab a file off the host with BE even if it is powered
down?
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 9:21 AM, Eldridge, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Only if they are powered up and live though. If powered down they are
just another file/folder sitting
20, 2008 8:03 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
To back up the VMDK files, you will need a different tool. I think BE has
an option now for that, but we use RangerPro, which, as you said, basically
encapsulates the VM and can spot restore the entire VM to any
: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
To back up the VMDK files, you will need a different tool. I think BE
has an option now for that, but we use RangerPro, which, as you said,
basically encapsulates the VM and can spot restore
the VM.
Am I missing something here?
Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076 x388
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*From:* mqcarp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:03 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
To back up
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 8:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
To back up the VMDK files, you will need a different tool. I
think BE has an option now for that, but we use RangerPro, which, as you
they are
suspended.
From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 12 VMs
Yep, version 12 agents include the ability to capture open files. So
then I should be good to go
.
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*From:* Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:35 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Backup Exec 12 VMs
Yep, version 12 agents include the ability to capture open files. So
then I should be good to go, right?
Roger Wright
Agree Roger. Either script a power down/up or manually power down and
get a good backup.
From: mqcarp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
The Open file option is supposed to handle that, but I
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From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 12 VMs
That's a pretty 'harsh' way to copy a server. If there are databases or
anything running on the guest, I would expect some corruption on a
restore
We have a similar setup (non critical servers on a vm guest with the
free vmware server).
I put the BE remote agent on the host server, not the guest. Then
have the BE media server run a pre job script to shut down the VM,
then backup the folder containing the VM, then run a post job script
that
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From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 12:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 12 VMs
That's a pretty 'harsh' way to copy a server. If there are databases or
anything running on the guest, I would expect some corruption on a
restore
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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:29:45 -0400
To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Backup Exec 12 VMs
I understand and good advice. I'm just thinking about using this on
basic application servers without active databases, and even then, only
as an secondary alternative to using
do complete vcb image backups that get stored off site.
*From:* Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 20, 2008 11:30 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Backup Exec 12 VMs
I understand and good advice. I'm just thinking about using this on basic
I guess so. J
From: mqcarp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 2:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
Dave we do standard backups and flat SQL back ups and DAILY Ranger back
ups and DAILY replication. It is called paranoia...
On Wed
there currently, we install an agent on each VM to backup the
server as though it were physical.
From: mqcarp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Backup Exec 12 VMs
The Open file option is supposed to handle
Okay, I've just deployed my first VM using VMware Server - a
non-essential server so I could get a feel for the process - and it's
running well.
Now... what do I need to do to back up this and any future machines with
Backup Exec?
Does the host BE agent cover the guests or do I need to place
: Backup Exec 12 VMs
Okay, I've just deployed my first VM using VMware Server - a
non-essential server so I could get a feel for the process - and it's
running well.
Now... what do I need to do to back up this and any future machines with
Backup Exec?
Does the host BE agent cover the guests or do
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