RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-23 Thread Steve Burkett
And don't forget to enable the virtualization support (AMD-V or IVT) in the BIOS! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 May 2008 04:57 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; NT System Admin Issues; Steve Burkett Subject: Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Tha

Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Steven Peck
> To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions > > Just go with 4 quad core. That way it's less confusing. > > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Troy Meyer > <[EMA

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Sam Cayze
And just call it a 4x4! -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 4:47 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Just go with 4 quad core. That way it's less confusing. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM

Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Steven Peck
Just go with 4 quad core. That way it's less confusing. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:06 PM, Ben Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Troy Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The new style chips are 32 bit chips with 64 bit instruction sets. > > In long mode ("64-bit

Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Troy Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The new style chips are 32 bit chips with 64 bit instruction sets. In long mode ("64-bit mode"), any x86-64 processor (i.e., AMD64, EMT64/Intel 64) is as 64-bit as the IA-64 is. 64-bit registers, 64-bit math, 64-bit virtu

Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Phillip Partipilo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Considering the two dual-core halves of quad-core chips have to communicate > over the FSB anyhow ... For Intel. AMD chips use a crossbar switch for all cores in the package. -- Ben ~ Upgrade to Next Generation An

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Tom Strader
processors. 2 is less than 4, physically, and monetarily... Go with the quad cores. Joe Heaton From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server S

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Joe Heaton
than 4, physically, and monetarily... Go with the quad cores. Joe Heaton From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:07 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Speaki

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC
Good to know - thanks. From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:52 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions +1 This is what I did when I built out my ESX infrastructure earlier this year. Shook _ From: Ken

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC
That's what we're thinking - VMWare on the other hand.. J From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Go with the 2 quad cores and put your license cost savings toward more

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Andy Shook
+1 This is what I did when I built out my ESX infrastructure earlier this year. Shook From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:50 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Go with the 2

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Ken Cornetet
1:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Speaking of this (sorry to hijack the thread but there is a correlation) Anyone know of a way to determine what would be best: 2 - Quad core processors 4 - Dual core processors When purchasing VMWare the

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Phillip Partipilo
(561) 747-6107 _ From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Speaking of this.. (sorry to hijack the thread but there is a correlation) Anyone know

Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
ROFL On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Martin Blackstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doh. > > The tard cart is now leaving the station. I'll be your conductor. -- ME2 ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Erik Goldoff
As many have said, get another HP DL box with 64 bit CPU , but make sure you load the box with RAM, the more the better, 32gig or more if you can. Direct memory addressing of LOTS of installed RAM is a clear benefit of running 64 bit OS on 64 bit hardware. _ From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMA

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC
performance price differences. Rick From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Doh. The tard cart is now leaving the station. I'll be your conductor. From: Michael B. Smith [m

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Tom Strader
Everybody makes mistakes Martin, thanks for replying, even if it was wrong. I appreciate it! From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Doh. The

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Blackstone
MY BAD From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:32 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Blackstone, ACK! IA64 is Itanium and your statement is WRONG. Most any CPU you get these days is EMT64 compatible (intel) or AMD64

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Blackstone
Doh. The tard cart is now leaving the station. I'll be your conductor. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:27 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Not. AMD64 or EM64T - not IA64. IA64 is It

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Troy Meyer
, it was lousy performance wise (and hot as hell) . The new style chips are 32 bit chips with 64 bit instruction sets. :) -tm From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions Buy an HP

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2008-05-22 Thread Tom Strader
em Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions What are you looking to accomplish in your tests? 64bit really offers you advantages over 4GB of ram. If I were you, I'd get a DL360G5, 6 drives, load as much ram as you can and build a VM lab box. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EM

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Michael B. Smith
Not. AMD64 or EM64T - not IA64. IA64 is Itanium. Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:21 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: 64 Bit Server

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Blackstone
Buy an HP. Remember, pretty much ANY CPU you can get in a server these days is IA64 compatible. It shouldn't be an issue. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:12 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: 64 Bit Server Suggestions I've been given some en

RE: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Barsodi.John
What are you looking to accomplish in your tests? 64bit really offers you advantages over 4GB of ram. If I were you, I'd get a DL360G5, 6 drives, load as much ram as you can and build a VM lab box. From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:12 AM To: NT Syste

Re: 64 Bit Server Suggestions

2008-05-22 Thread Steve Ens
IS there anything else? DL380, load it with RAM and disks... https://www.cdw.ca/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1303764 On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:12 AM, Tom Strader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been given some end of year cash to purchase another server. > > I'd like to get a good 64 bit s