RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-26 Thread Brian Desmond
- 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GPO Best Practices I'm looking for a best practices kind of thing here... When admins want to force other groups or accounts

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-21 Thread John Bowles
:09 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GPO Best Practices NP On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:27, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: My bad you are correct I forgot to say that was true and this is how it is done. Sorry. Jon On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-21 Thread Ken Schaefer
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GPO Best Practices I'm looking for a best practices kind of thing here... When admins want to force other groups or accounts to workstations outside of domain admins, and not allowing the local admin to modify the list.. Do they create a seperate GPO

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-21 Thread Free, Bob
Actually that feature was updated in 2kSp4 so you could even do it on a W2K domain -Original Message- From: asbz...@gmail.com [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GPO Best Practices You can do it in 2003

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Andy Ognenoff
You can do what you are talking about with Restricted Groups. This should get you what you need: http://www.frickelsoft.net/blog/?p=13  - Andy O. From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:00 AM To: NT System

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Yes, that is how restricted groups work, it over writes whatever is existing on the current machine. The best way to do it, then your GPO is the definitive authority on who is a local admin. So yes, servers should be in separate OU's so they can have their own GPO's on this issue and all the

Re: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Stephen Wimberly
Servers and workstations should be in different OU's for a variety of reasons, GPO is one of the best reasons. We used to use restrictive groups for the local Administrators group, but yes this does delete all contents and replace with the contents of the GPO. If you have Server 2003 Domain

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread John Bowles
GPP? John Bowles From: Stephen Wimberly [swimbe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GPO Best Practices Servers and workstations should be in different OU's for a variety of reasons, GPO is one

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Ken Schaefer
You should structure your OUs to support (a) delegation of administration (if required) and (b) support efficient linking of GPOs. Just about every place that I've been has had servers (e.g. broken down by functionality) and workstations (usually then subdivided into desktops and laptops) in

Re: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Jonathan Link
Group Policy Preferences. Painstakingly sent from my iPhone. On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:16 AM, John Bowles john.bow...@wlkmmas.org wrote: GPP? John Bowles From: Stephen Wimberly [swimbe...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: GPO

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Joe Tinney
, 2010 10:06 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GPO Best Practices Yes, that is how restricted groups work, it over writes whatever is existing on the current machine. The best way to do it, then your GPO is the definitive authority on who is a local admin. So yes, servers should

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Andy Ognenoff
OU structure aside (separating them is good practice for all of the reasons stated) - your first thought to use Restricted Groups was definitely a way to accomplish the task - that's exactly what we do here. Just use the This group is a member of: box with Administrators added to it and leave the

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Carol Fee
Aren't the Domain Admins automatically added to the local Administrators when the computer is joined to the domain ? CFee From: John Bowles [mailto:john.bow...@wlkmmas.org] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:00 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: GPO Best Practices I have a customer who is

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread John Bowles
Thanks to everyone for their ideas. This was very helpful! John Bowles From: Andy Ognenoff [andyognen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GPO Best Practices OU structure aside (separating

RE: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Eisenberg, Wayne
Admin Issues Subject: RE: GPO Best Practices Thanks to everyone for their ideas. This was very helpful! John Bowles From: Andy Ognenoff [andyognen...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: GPO Best

Re: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Kurt Buff
To my certain knowledge, yes. This leads me to wonder why this is an issue. I can only think of one reason: Non-DAs are also admins or power users, and they want to ensure that the non-DAs can't kick the DAs off the workstations. Kurt On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 07:40, Carol Fee c...@massbar.org

Re: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Jon Harris
I believe DA's are added to the Administrators group but are not local Administrators. From my experience local administrators can trump DA's and where possible it is best to remove local administrators from the Administrators group to prevent this. The other tactic to take would be to disable

Re: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Kurt Buff
I think you're kinda saying the same thing I am. DAs are added to any non-DC's local Administrators group when added to the domain, unless things have changed since Win2k3 R2 SP2+ and XP SP3+. They are, by default, admins on any machine joined to the domain, though the local Administrator can

Re: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread asbzone
2010 11:48:56 To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: GPO Best Practices Group Policy preferences in AD 2008 actually allows you to add/remove/update groups without deleting all previous group members, unlike group policy in 2003. -Original Message

Re: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Jon Harris
My bad you are correct I forgot to say that was true and this is how it is done. Sorry. Jon On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I think you're kinda saying the same thing I am. DAs are added to any non-DC's local Administrators group when added to the

Re: GPO Best Practices

2010-01-20 Thread Kurt Buff
NP On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:27, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com wrote: My bad you are correct I forgot to say that was true and this is how it is done.  Sorry. Jon On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: I think you're kinda saying the same thing I am. DAs