to best merge them.*
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*Thanks,*
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*From:* John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 5:12 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 16:29:21 -0500
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
ReplyTo: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Did you actually just ask Brian Desmond
...@briandesmond.com
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From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Wowthis thread went off on one.
Not to try and resurrect it or anythingbut I recall
This is Windows 2008 R2 single domain, for the record
On 30 September 2010 12:49, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
I've just started a new job and we're building an all-new infrastructure.
One of the key things I'm looking at it is restricting access to the most
sensitive functions
If the vCenter server is domain joined, the simple answer is...
You're screwed. From both ways.
-Anders
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 1:49 PM, James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
I've just started a new job and we're building an all-new infrastructure.
One of the key things I'm looking at it
The short answer is yes, if they are domain admins they can do anything they
like provided they have the knowledge. Including add themselves to the
Enterprise Admins group since you said you were in a single domain, which I
interpret as no empty root.
You could change the ACL's, but again
[mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: 30 September 2010 13:05
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
The short answer is yes, if they are domain admins they can do anything
they like provided they have the knowledge. Including add themselves to
the Enterprise
I am seriously going to try to get them to accept Server Operators level as
a compromise. They can still kill servers all they want, but they should be
able to be locked out of the finer points of VMWare, XenApp and AppSense.
Time for my first head-butting session with management in this job. If
.
-Original Message-
From: James Rankin kz2...@googlemail.com
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:19:16
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: Re: Restricting groups in
Active Directory
I am seriously going
***However, the business are adamant that every member of the support
teams (from helpdesk upwards) will be given a Domain Admin account. Am I
right in assuming this means that they could simply add themselves into the
groups I am setting up, because even if I restrict these groups via an ACL,
I am raising this up with IS management, as it is unsupportable - there's no
point in me putting a structure together that can just be pulled apart at
will.
There's no way around it, so I'm just going to have to trust in my own
stubbornness to get the buy-in I need :-) Audit was going to be one
, September 30, 2010 9:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am raising this up with IS management, as it is unsupportable - there's no
point in me putting a structure together that can just be pulled apart at will.
There's no way around it, so I'm
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am raising this up with IS management, as it is unsupportable - there's no
point in me putting a structure together that can just be pulled apart at will.
There's no way around it, so I'm just going to have to trust
, September 30, 2010 9:18 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am raising this up with IS management, as it is unsupportable - there's
no point in me putting a structure together that can just be pulled apart at
will.
There's no way around
I'm fearful that IS management will be of no help to you, since they haven't
been able to prevent the situation from occuring to this point.
Really, this is 2010. Do we even need to *have* this discussion about admin
levels and appropriate level of rights?
My guess is that you better start
reign to all files, and add machines to the domain (just
to name a few).
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:18 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am raising this up with IS management
I wasn't having a discussion about appropriate levels of rights - I'm well
aware of those. I was just wondering if there was any way to lock a group
out from the depradations of Domain Admins by using some cunning permissions
voodoo. Clearly there's not, so it's off to thrash the details out.
I'm
machines to the domain (just to name a few).
*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:18 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am raising this up with IS management, as it is unsupportable
to the domain (just to name a few).
*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:18 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am raising this up with IS management, as it is unsupportable - there's
no point
!
a
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 30 September 2010 14:23
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Ask why they need to be domain admins and not just have the necessary
permissions delegated. My Service Desk guys were
to be able to change administrator passwords,
free reign to all files, and add machines to the domain (just to name a
few).
*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:18 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups
of
seniority!
a
From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: 30 September 2010 14:23
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Ask why they need to be domain admins and not just have the necessary
permissions delegated. My
]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 8:18 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am raising this up with IS management, as it is unsupportable -
there's no point in me putting a structure together that can just be pulled
apart at will.
There's
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I'll see your +1 and raise +11
- WJR
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:04, Jeff Steward jstew...@gmail.com wrote:
+1
-Jeff Steward
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com
wrote
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Fax: (610) 650-5306
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*From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:24 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I'll see your +1 and raise +11
- WJR
Devon, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I'll see your +1
System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Lemme ask this... since there's a need to get management buy in. Is everyone
in the organization running as local admin? If not, then an analogy can be
drawn. Afterall, if helpdesk had to support staff who ran as admin
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
The short answer is yes, if they are domain admins they can do anything they
like provided they have the knowledge. Including add themselves to the
Enterprise Admins group since you said you were in a single domain
of the * Operators groups.
Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com
c - 312.731.3132
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am seriously going to try to get them to accept
of the * Operators
groups. *
* *
*Thanks,*
*Brian Desmond*
*br...@briandesmond.com*
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*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:19 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups
...@briandesmond.com*
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*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:19 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am seriously going to try to get them to accept Server
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*From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:19 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am seriously going to try to get them to accept Server Operators level
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Lemme ask this... since there's a need to get management buy in. Is
everyone in the organization running as local admin? If not, then an
analogy can be drawn. Afterall, if helpdesk had to support staff who ran as
admin, well, that would
...@googlemail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:19 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I am seriously going to try to get them to accept Server Operators level
as a compromise. They can still kill servers all they want
Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 1:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Not really. I can see that the IT staff in general would want to retain admin
rights generally and limit rights to users based on what
let users run as local admins?
*From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:34 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Lemme ask this... since there's a need to get management buy
:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:34 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Lemme ask this... since there's a need to get management buy in. Is
everyone in the organization running as local
, PA 19333
Direct: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
don.gu...@prufoxroach.com
*From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 10:24 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I'll see your +1
Why not 24-bits of color depth?
Webster
p.s. why do you keep misspelling colour? J
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I'm sure the users will love me when they see an upgrade from a Windows
2000, Presentation
...@googlemail.com]
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I'm sure the users will love me when they see an upgrade from a Windows
2000, Presentation Server 3, 256 colour desktop to Windows 2008 R2 on XenApp
6 with sparkling 16 bits of colour depth :-) Actually they need to make
in Active Directory
No, that is what you do with us conslutants.
Webster
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Ohhh...
Just be sure you're not the one left holding the bag. This sounds like a
setup, bring the new guy in, reorg
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*From:* William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:05 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
The short answer is yes, if they are domain admins they can do anything
they like provided
AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Lemme ask this... since there's a need to get management buy in. Is
everyone in the organization running as local admin? If not, then an
analogy can be drawn. Afterall, if helpdesk had to support staff
[mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Ever tried it? Ever successfully done it?
I have, and I'm tired of hearing that argument that empty root is useless.
Most folks don't know, nor care
Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:21 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Ever tried it? Ever successfully done it?
I have, and I'm tired of hearing that argument that empty root is useless
[mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Very limited huh? You mean like the Fortune 500?
How much money does two servers cost? How much does it cost when some idiot
gives himself
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*Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian*
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*From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:43 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Very limited huh? You mean like
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I see. And how many directories have you designed for Fortune 500 companies?
I'm protecting them from people that think it's no big deal to continue to
design a directory as if it were still 1996...but that's just me and my 10
:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Very limited huh? You mean like the Fortune 500?
How much money does two servers cost? How much does it cost when some
idiot gives himself inappropriate creds and makes a critical error?
- WJR
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 14:27, Brian Desmond br
+∞
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
HAHAHAHAHA.
No offense Mr. Robbins, but I think you have no clue as to Mr. Desmond’s
background
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
*From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:38 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I see. And how many directories have you
www.briandesmond.com
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
+∞
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:06
I already know him..in person J
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:pmaglin...@scvl.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
www.briandesmond.com
From: Free, Bob [mailto:r...@pge.com]
Sent: Thursday
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 12:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
I've done that (OK, to be accurate, it was seven to one). You need someone
with juice at the level of the new, to be main company to make the point
Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Restricting groups in
Active Directory
Did you actually just ask Brian Desmond that?
To continue the thought, how many conferences have you spoken at? How many
books
Alright I will ask.
What exactly are your credentials?
Thanks,
Mathew
From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Look I didn't start picking his statement
Do you have a tape measure or would you like to borrow one?
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Alright I will ask.
What exactly are your
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Alright I will ask.
What exactly are your credentials?
Thanks,
Mathew
From: William J. Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject
Isn't that what tweezers are for?
-Original Message-
From: Joseph Heaton [mailto:jhea...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
are the measurement increments on your tape measure small
: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
are the measurement increments on your tape measure small enough?
Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.com 9/30/2010 2:44 PM
Do you have a tape measure or would you like to borrow one?
From: Mathew Shember [mailto:mathew.shem...@synopsys.com
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Kim Longenbaugh
k...@colonialsavings.com wrote:
Do you have a tape measure or would you like to borrow one?
I would suggest one of these:
http://nano-machinery.com/catalog/images/Digital%20Micrometer.jpg
;-)
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security
...@dfg.ca.gov]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Restricting groups in Active Directory
are the measurement increments on your tape measure small enough?
Kim Longenbaugh k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com
9/30/2010 2:44 PM
Do you
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Restricting groups in Active Directory
Are you guys blasting Shookie again?
John W. Cook
Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families
From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin
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From: Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 22:16:07
To: NT System Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues
ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.comSubject: RE: Restricting groups in
Active Directory
Alright guys. I really am flattered
What's with this reconciliation and civil discourse stuff? Here I
was making popcorn ;-)
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com wrote:
William and I chatted offline and we’re good ...
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:26 PM, William J. Robbins
dangerw...@gmail.com
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