Re: Um, WTF?

2010-11-19 Thread Jeff Bunting
Here's another take on this incident: http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2010/11/china-hijacks-15-of-internet-traffic/ Jeff On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:46 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china *David Lum**

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2010-11-19 Thread David Lum
Thanks Jeff for posting this, much appreciated. Dave From: Jeff Bunting [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2010 8:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? Here's another take on this incident: http://asert.arbornetworks.com/2010/11/china-hijacks-15

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2010-11-18 Thread Jeff Brown
Thanks for posting that link. First I've hear of it. SHUZMMM! On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 9:46 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/u-s-based-internet-traffic-redirected-to-china *David Lum** **// *SYSTEMS ENGINEER NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION

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2010-11-18 Thread Ziots, Edward
Dude that is old news, its been happening off and on for years by some of the major ISP's across the globe. Why you want to encrypt your sensitive traffic accordingly... (SSL, better yet, IPSEC (ESP)) Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
Yep. BGP is not secure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Dude that is old news, its been happening

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2010-11-18 Thread David Lum
Ok so I'm behind the curve. BGP? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Yep. BGP is not secure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From

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2010-11-18 Thread James Rankin
*Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? Yep. BGP is not secure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:17 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Gateway_Protocol Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Ok so I'm behind

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2010-11-18 Thread Ziots, Edward
, WTF? Ok so I'm behind the curve. BGP? From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:20 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Yep. BGP is not secure. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http

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2010-11-18 Thread David Lum
, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Border Gateway Protocol Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network +, Security + Network Engineer Lifespan Organization Email:ezi...@lifespan.org Cell:401-639-3505 From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18

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2010-11-18 Thread Jon Harris
and then something like this pops up and I’m back to “eh, I’m just a n00b…” *From:* Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:28 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? Border Gateway Protocol Z Edward E. Ziots CISSP, Network

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
list). I know zero about it. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Ah. I have heard that term I just didn't

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2010-11-18 Thread Ken Schaefer
Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc. Cheers Ken From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Friday, 19 November 2010 12:39 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? If you've never worked

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my networking subjects, we have to cover OSPF, RIP, BGP etc. Cheers Ken From: Michael B. Smith

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2010-11-18 Thread James Winzenz
The most recent Network+ covers BGP and the other routing protocols, although not in great detail . . . From: Michael B. Smith Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
not in great detail . . . *From:* Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:04 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? I’ve never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco

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2010-11-18 Thread David Lum
...). Dave From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 9:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? I've never seen BGP covered in networking courses. Other than advanced Cisco courses. OSPF and RIP and IGRP - common interior protocols, yes

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2010-11-18 Thread Bill Humphries
a better grade of schooling than I did. J Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF

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2010-11-18 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:33 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: Why is it the more I learn the more ignorant I feel? The more I learn, the more I realize, the less I know. (Unknown) -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

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2010-11-18 Thread Ziots, Edward
Cell:401-639-3505 From: Bill Humphries [mailto:nt...@hedgedigger.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? yeah mainline courses like network+ do not get into ISP level routing tech. Bill Michael B. Smith wrote: I've never seen BGP

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
://TheEssentialExchange.com http://theessentialexchange.com/ *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com k...@adopenstatic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 11:53 AM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? Any networking course should cover BGP. When I did my

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2010-11-18 Thread Michael B. Smith
But big boys, right? Not your average SMORG. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? To be fair, BGP is not just

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF? To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's... I've run BGP in quite a few companies depending on the needs... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries nt...@hedgedigger.com wrote: yeah

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2010-11-18 Thread Greg Olson
[mailto:don@gmail.commailto:don@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's... I've run BGP in quite a few companies depending on the needs... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries nt

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2010-11-18 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
: Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Um, WTF? Not always. I did some work a few years back for a company with multiple T1's, multiple providers and they were only a 1 site, 100 user company. Their business model dictated that they needed multiple paths

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2010-11-18 Thread Andy Shook
I see they don't have any commas in Oklahoma. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major

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2010-11-18 Thread Jonathan Link
Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server systems. Tim *From:* Don Ely

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2010-11-18 Thread Don Ely
System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens BTW) and had to have very reliable and redundant communications and server systems. Tim *From

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2010-11-18 Thread RS
Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 2:38 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Um, WTF? I have been there done that also, for a company of 100 or so employees. We hosted parts of a major vendors website (it’s amazing how often that happens BTW

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2010-11-18 Thread Andrew S. Baker
[mailto:don@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, November 18, 2010 1:41 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Um, WTF? To be fair, BGP is not just for ISP's... I've run BGP in quite a few companies depending on the needs... On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Bill Humphries nt