There is no panacea. Biometrics can have revocation issues.
Cheers
Ken
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From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 11:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics
Our building alarm has this already.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug
doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com wrote:
I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
(Almost but not quite OT: Passwords). I like Steve Gibson’s analysis of why
long
kinds of hell break loose. J
From: G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
Sent: 19 August 2011 15:44
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
Our building alarm has this already.
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug
doug.hilderbr
of an alarm deactivation… so
the “coercee” doesn’t suspect anything… but behind the scenes, twelve
different kinds of hell break loose… J
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*From:* G.Waleed Kavalec [mailto:kava...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* 19 August 2011 15:44
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Why
Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction with a PIN/password are
really the best way to go. We *have* the technology to do this.
From: James Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
I
Hill [mailto:j.h...@coffeeclub.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 7:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Why not failwords?
I still think passwords have to die. There are better options.
From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August
On my list of movies I haven't seen, and probably won't...
-sc
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
Cause that worked out well in Demolition Man :)
- WJR
On Fri, Aug
Hello spoiler
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
Cause that worked out well in Demolition Man :)
- WJR
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich
jaldr
Or in that Tom Cruse movie where he killed a guy and ripped his eyeball out to
get through a retina scanner
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
Cause that worked out well
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.eduwrote:
Hello spoiler
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*From:* William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Why not failwords?
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Cause
, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
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*Subject:* Re: Why not failwords?
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Cause that worked out well in Demolition Man :)
- WJR
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote:
Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics
System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
Wow, it's a nearly 20 year old film. Presumably if one hasn't seen it, one
isn't interested in it, at this point.
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Crawford, Scott
crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote:
Hello spoiler
From: William
in the end…or was that real life?
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*From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2011 11:20 AM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: Why not failwords?
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Wow, it's a nearly 20 year old film. Presumably if one hasn't seen it, one
That movie was spoiled long before me.
- WJR
On Friday, August 19, 2011, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote:
Hello spoiler
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords
:) nice
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 2:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
That movie was spoiled long before me.
- WJR
On Friday, August 19, 2011, Crawford, Scott
crawfo...@evangel.edumailto:crawfo
, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
Cause that worked out well in Demolition Man :)
- WJR
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:37, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com wrote:
Yep. Biometrics-only or biometrics in conjunction
You had me at 1993.
-sc
On Friday, August 19, 2011, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu
wrote:
Hello spoiler
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
Cause
recent TV news story here about implementing 911 PINs for ATMs, similar to
what you suggest for failwords
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug
doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com wrote:
I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack passwords
(Almost but not
Until now, this concept has been the realm of science fiction and spy
movies.
Off-hand, I can't think of any reason not to do it either. I would love to
see it implemented in modern OSes, and critical business apps.
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Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 10:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
Until now, this concept has been the realm of science fiction and spy
movies.
Off-hand, I can't think of any reason not to do it either. I would love
to see
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug
doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com wrote:
Why hasn’t anyone implemented fail words?
These are called duress codes and are commonly assigned for things
like security alarms, locks (like your bank vault), etc. The key
aspect of a duress code
Stop listening to GRC. While he's not a complete idiot, he's often
misinformed, and Can't! Talk! About! Anything! Like! It's! Not!
The! Most! Amazing! Thing! Ever!, even if what he's just
discovered or invented has been well-known for decades.
^^ Could not agree more.
Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug
doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com wrote:
Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words?
These are called duress codes and are commonly assigned for things
like security alarms, locks (like your bank vault
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug
doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com wrote:
I don't like lockout attempt settings too low. On more occasions than
I'd like to admit, I have used up multiple attempts because of a
caps-lock issue or because I'm trying to get a valid password
or another.
Doug Hilderbrand | Systems Analyst, Information Technology | Crane
Aerospace Electronics
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011
: Re: Why not failwords?
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Hilderbrand, Doug
doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com wrote:
Why hasn't anyone implemented fail words?
These are called duress codes and are commonly assigned for things
like security alarms, locks (like your bank vault), etc
, August 18, 2011 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
I could be missing your objective here, but could you explain how would this
work in a computing environment? You use the *h@rd3r* password on relatively
sensitive websites ( banks, corporate login , email etc
, Information Technology | Crane
Aerospace Electronics
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-Original Message-
From: Harry Singh [mailto:hbo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 11:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Why not failwords?
I could be missing
I still think passwords have to die. There are better options.
From: Hilderbrand, Doug [mailto:doug.hilderbr...@craneaerospace.com]
Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 3:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Why not failwords?
I was just reading all those emails about making hard to crack
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