RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-13 Thread Carl Houseman
mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:41 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: clarification on sp level and patching Thanks for the info on the Vista (which we aren't using) and Win2008 accordingly. Still use qchain for 2k3 and below and works just fine, also my Shavlik uses i

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-13 Thread Ziots, Edward
k Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network + ezi...@lifespan.org Phone:401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: Carl Houseman [mailto:c.house...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 12:04 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: clarification on sp level an

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-12 Thread Carl Houseman
h long ago when qchain functionality was embedded in the update installer. Carl -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: clarification on sp level and patching On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at

Re: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-12 Thread Jonathan Link
Everything old is new again. I never really bought it that MS had sufficiently cleaned up its act regarding updates and rebooting. At least now they're admitting it. On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 1:30 PM, Ben Scott wrote: > On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Jeff Bunting > wrote: > >> Just remember i

Re: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-12 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Jeff Bunting wrote: >> Just remember if you apply a service pack to a server, without re-applying >> the post SP updates the fixes you put in place, will be undone when the >> service pack is applied, > > Is this still true? I thought the $hf_mig$ directory was now

Re: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-12 Thread Jeff Bunting
--- > > *From:* Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2009 11:09 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: clarification on sp level and patching > > > > normally a service pack contains all the hotfixes and security

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-12 Thread Erik Goldoff
lifespan.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: clarification on sp level and patching Just remember if you apply a service pack to a server, without re-applying the post SP updates the fixes you put in place, will be undone when the service pack is

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-12 Thread Ziots, Edward
] Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 11:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: clarification on sp level and patching normally a service pack contains all the hotfixes and security patches since the last service pack release. The service pack is considered cumulative for all precedents up to

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-12 Thread Ziots, Edward
t 10, 2009 11:31 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: clarification on sp level and patching I think it's valid to say that it's a fully patched SP1 system. Without the SP qualifier, the statement might be somewhat ambiguous. If someone asks, "Does this have all the latest

Re: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-10 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:51 AM, Christopher Bodnar wrote: > My reasoning is that it’s missing all the critical patches > that are included in the latest SP ( SP2 in this case) and > all the post SP updates. Your understanding is wrong. Microsoft releases critical updates to fix problems li

Re: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-10 Thread Angus Scott-Fleming
On 10 Aug 2009 at 10:51, Christopher Bodnar wrote: > If a machine is not at the latest SP level, say for example a server is > at W2K3 SP1, but it has all the critical updates for SP1 applied, is that > machine considered "patched" for critical updates? It has always been my > impression that

Re: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-10 Thread Andrew S. Baker
I think it's valid to say that it's a fully patched *SP1 *system. Without the SP qualifier, the statement might be somewhat ambiguous. If someone asks, "*Does this have all the latest patches*", then "No" is a valid answer, if there is a subsequent service pack that can be installed. -ASB htt

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-10 Thread Erik Goldoff
normally a service pack contains all the hotfixes and security patches since the last service pack release. The service pack is considered cumulative for all precedents up to published release date ( RTM date ) ... Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, & Security _ Fro

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-10 Thread Webb, Brian (Corp)
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: clarification on sp level and patching It is fully patched, but it isn't as protected as it could/should be. I think he is sticking to the strict meaning of 'fully patched' and he is correct. I think you are saying is it 'fully protect

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-10 Thread Kennedy, Jim
It is fully patched, but it isn't as protected as it could/should be. I think he is sticking to the strict meaning of 'fully patched' and he is correct. I think you are saying is it 'fully protected' and it isn't and are also correct. From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.co

RE: clarification on sp level and patching

2009-08-10 Thread Carl Houseman
Your colleague is correct. Carl From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:51 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: clarification on sp level and patching Got a question, If a machine is not at the latest SP level, say for examp