RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-20 Thread Ken Schaefer
Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA? Thanks Ben, good info. special = some configuration that means non-Dell sourced drives will not work in said server. Dave -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-20 Thread greg.sweers
Issues Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA? Poweredge 840 is a low end server right? And the SAS 5/IR has no restrictions on using non-Dell SATA II disks (as I've had that cr*ppy card before) Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, 19 May

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-20 Thread Erik Goldoff
some media drives ( at least this used to be true ) had a different TCal logic (thermal recalibration) to keep the data stream as a priority. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:27 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: IS there

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-20 Thread David Lum
:-). Dave -Original Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA? Poweredge 840 is a low end server right? And the SAS 5/IR has no restrictions on using non-Dell SATA II disks

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-20 Thread Phil Brutsche
The SAS and SATA connectors were designed to be compatible from the beginning. You won't need any different cabling with the new drives. On 5/20/2010 10:28 AM, David Lum wrote: Correct on the low-end, it's an SBS box for an office of 17 folks. Any idea on what kind of cable I need? regular

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-20 Thread Ken Schaefer
The SAS 5/IR should ship with the necessary cables... Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 11:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA? Correct on the low-end, it's an SBS box for an office

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread Jeff Cain
I would get in touch with someone in Dell's sales upgrades dept. Get the exact model number they would be sending you and see if you can source it elsewhere. PS I love newegg. Thanks, Jeff Cain Technical Support Analyst Sunbelt Software Email:

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread Erik Goldoff
If the Dell SATA drives are intended to work with the Dell RAID cards, then they likely have DELL oem’d firmware compared to consumer shelf drives. Erik Goldoff IT Consultant Systems, Networks, Security ' Security is an ongoing process, not a one time event ! ' From: David Lum

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread Ken Schaefer
Normal SATA II drives work fine with the SAS 5/IR Cheers Ken From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA? If the Dell SATA drives are intended to work with the Dell RAID cards

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread Erik Goldoff
10:42 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA? Normal SATA II drives work fine with the SAS 5/IR Cheers Ken From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 19 May 2010 10:40 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
I would not EVER use a normal consumer SATA drive in any sort of RAID array. The only SATA drives I would use are the ones intended for server storage - the Western Digital RE series or the Seagate Barracuda ES series. The Western Digital WD5002ABYS is an RE drive and should be fine. On

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread David Lum
Issues Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA? I would not EVER use a normal consumer SATA drive in any sort of RAID array. The only SATA drives I would use are the ones intended for server storage - the Western Digital RE series or the Seagate Barracuda ES series. The Western Digital WD5002ABYS

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
Yessir The point is the biggest one. On 5/19/2010 10:21 AM, David Lum wrote: Because of these features, right? * Superior reliability - Designed and manufactured to provide server-class reliability in high duty cycle environments. With 1.2 million hours MTBF, these drives have the highest

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread David Lum
close to 30 hours all said and done. The CPU side nowadays is the worst! Dave -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:21 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA? Because of these features, right

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:27 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote: IS there anything special about Dell-supplied SATA drives? Define special. The HDA (hard disk assembly) and PCB (printed circuit board) are almost certainly the same as you would get if you bought a similar spec'ed drive

RE: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread David Lum
Thanks Ben, good info. special = some configuration that means non-Dell sourced drives will not work in said server. Dave -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:35 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Dell PowerEdge 840

Re: Dell PowerEdge 840 SATA?

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Brutsche
Oh, and there's one that's not on this list: Enterprise-grade SATA drives report an SAS WWN. Plain consumer drives do not. It might sound like a minor thing, but any SAS storage array that uses an SAS expander chip will refuse to operate with plain consumer drives connected. On 5/19/2010 10:21