: Wifi monitoring
What we always said about trying to design a product:
There's never enough time to do it right, but there's always enough time to
do it twice.
Carl
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From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 11:03 AM
To: NT System
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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Looks cool, I don't have a twitter or FB account.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 09:40
Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
I'm familiar with it.
It suffers from the same problem as nmap.
Kurt
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 13:26, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote:
Kurt
Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
iPad has a EULA, doesn't it?
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote:
Ok. Well, I'm out of ideas... :-( Good luck! You may have to end up mapping
your network with a laptop (or iPad) and some sort of scanner
the heck you wanted on it. :-)
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
iPad has a EULA, doesn't it?
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote
2:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
Another suggestion I just got off another list: Motorola Air Defense --
http://www.airdefense.net/ Not sure the cost, but it's bound to be cheaper than
Cisco's products. :-)
Here's the full comment from the other list:
Unless he
Ahh
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
My comment was more for someone else's benefit... :-)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:26 AM, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote
, March 01, 2011 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Looks cool, I don't have a twitter or FB account.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 09:40, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
I used this on my traveling laptop, it did a pretty good job.
http://www.makayama.com
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote:
That is very true Ken... I was just having this conversation yesterday with
a coworker... There is always a way to do it cheaper today, but at what
cost tomorrow?
If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until
You may have coined it, but I know I've said it many times in my career
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote:
That is very true Ken... I was just having this conversation yesterday
with
a
, 2011 11:03 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote:
That is very true Ken... I was just having this conversation yesterday
with
a coworker... There is always a way to do it cheaper today, but at what
cost
there's some sort of wi-fi
scanner in the app store. :-) Or you could get an Android tablet and load
whatever the heck you wanted on it. :-)
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
iPad
on it. :-)
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
iPad has a EULA, doesn't it?
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:57 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
wrote:
Ok. Well, I'm out
... :-( Good luck! You may have to end up
mapping your network with a laptop (or iPad) and some sort of scanner.
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
I'm familiar
detect rogue APs.
Cheers
Ken
-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 March 2011 2:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
Another suggestion I just got off another list: Motorola Air Defense --
http
2011 2:50 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
Another suggestion I just got off another list: Motorola Air Defense --
http://www.airdefense.net/ Not sure the cost, but it's bound to be cheaper
than Cisco's products. :-)
Here's the full comment from the other list
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote:
If you think it costs a lot to do it right, just wait until you
find out how much it costs to do it wrong.
(I think I actually coined that, although it may be a case of
multiple independent derivation.)
You may have coined
Made perfect sense to me.
-sc
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 9:39 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
My comment was more for someone else's benefit... :-)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 9:26 AM, John Aldrich
jaldr
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Don Ely don@gmail.com wrote:
That is very true Ken... I was just having this conversation yesterday
with
a coworker... There is always a way to do it cheaper today, but at what
cost tomorrow?
If you think it costs a lot to do
://freshmeat.net/projects/wifiscanner
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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wifi monitoring
All,
Now that I have a Win7 Pro laptop of my very own at work, I have put
some utilities
Another Linux app that looks interesting is Kismet:
http://www.kismetwireless.net/
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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wifi monitoring
All,
Now that I have a Win7 Pro laptop
And this tool?
http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/
--- El mar, 1/3/11, John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com escribió:
De: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
Asunto: RE: Wifi monitoring
Para: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Fecha: martes, 1 de
I believe the OP mentioned he was already using it. :-)
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From: Miguel Gonzalez [mailto:miguel_3_gonza...@yahoo.es]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
And this tool?
http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider
[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wifi monitoring
All,
Now that I have a Win7 Pro laptop of my very own at work, I have put
some utilities on it to monitor my wifi environment.
I've started with:
InSSIDer
Xirrus WifiMonitor
...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
I did a quick search on Freshmeat.net and found something that might do the
job... it's called Wifi Scanner and it's free. The catch is you have to be
running linux. :-) So, get an inexpensive
That works too. :-)
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
Trivial to run linux inside a VM on Win7. I used to do it all the time, until I
got MinGW up
[mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
I did a quick search on Freshmeat.net and found something that might do
the job... it's called Wifi Scanner and it's free. The catch is you have
to be running linux. :-) So
: Wifi monitoring
Para: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Fecha: martes, 1 de marzo, 2011 08:39
I did a quick search on Freshmeat.net
and found something that might do the job... it's called
Wifi Scanner and it's free. The catch is you have to be
running linux. :-) So
it and install Ubuntu
or something on it... :-)
Here's a link to the project page: http://freshmeat.net/projects/wifiscanner
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wifi monitoring
All
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-Original Message-
From: John Aldrich [mailto:jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
I did a quick search on Freshmeat.net and found
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Interesting, but no port for FreeBSD - but Ubuntu is only a few keystrokes away.
More limiting is that still seems to need someone to wander around
with a laptop and click a lot.
Looking for something that would allow me to manipulate
,
Michael B. Smith
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From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Ya know, I bet you could teach a class on that last
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From: John Aldrich jaldr...@blueridgecarpet.com
To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Tue Mar 01 12:31:06 2011
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
Kurt, what sort of area are you talking about? I'm guessing with 15 APs, it's
probably pretty
, VTSP4
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Wifi monitoring
You referring to the MinGW piece?
I was surprised at how non-trivial it was.
Constructing the tool chain
, March 01, 2011 12:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Ya know, I bet you could teach a class on that last...
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 06:33, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com
wrote:
Trivial to run linux inside a VM on Win7. I used to do it all the time,
until I
to detect rogue APs -
http://mail.pauldotcom.com/pipermail/pauldotcom/2010-March/004865.html
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Wifi monitoring
All,
Now that I have a Win7 Pro
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm torturing myself this week with trying to build nTop and ntpd.
Ewww. Why not just VM it? Cross-platform builds were more useful
before VMs became easy. These days I just toss Linux on a VM under
Windows. Why
[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Interesting, but no port for FreeBSD - but Ubuntu is only a few keystrokes
away.
More limiting is that still seems to need someone to wander around
with a laptop
: Re: Wifi monitoring
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm torturing myself this week with trying to build nTop and ntpd.
Ewww. Why not just VM it? Cross-platform builds were more useful
before VMs became easy. These days I just toss Linux on a VM under
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 09:31, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote:
You referring to the MinGW piece?
Yes, exactly.
I was surprised at how non-trivial it was.
I'm not - I've read a few emails on the process, though I've never
done it myself.
Constructing the tool chain with
: Wifi monitoring
You referring to the MinGW piece?
I was surprised at how non-trivial it was.
Constructing the tool chain with everything required to rebuild, for example,
RRDtool or NTop is a major piece of work.
But I have all my tools on one computer now - Windows, PowerShell
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-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Looks cool, I don't have a twitter or FB
:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Looks cool, I don't have a twitter or FB account.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 09:40, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
I used this on my traveling laptop, it did a pretty good job.
http://www.makayama.com/easywifiradar.html
John W
Less overhead and disk storage than maintaining the VM.
I *could* do this if forced, but for now I will soldier on.
(My laptop only has 2.5GB RAM in it, though, and I don't want that shared
with a VM)
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System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Looks cool, I don't have a twitter or FB account.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 09:40, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote:
I used this on my traveling laptop, it did a pretty good job.
http://www.makayama.com/easywifiradar.html
John W. Cook
System
Airdefense is cheaper, but it is NOT that much cheaper...
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Andrew S. Baker asbz...@gmail.com wrote:
Less overhead and disk storage than maintaining the VM.
I *could* do this if forced, but for now I will soldier on.
(My laptop only has 2.5GB RAM in it,
-to-discover-rogue-access-points.html
-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:09 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Looks cool, I don't have a twitter or FB account.
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 09:40, John Cook
: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:18 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Wifi monitoring
Less overhead and disk storage than maintaining the VM.
I *could* do this if forced, but for now I will soldier on.
(My laptop only has 2.5GB RAM in it, though
All,
Now that I have a Win7 Pro laptop of my very own at work, I have put
some utilities on it to monitor my wifi environment.
I've started with:
InSSIDer
Xirrus WifiMonitor gadget
Ekahau Heatmapper
I didn't put on PassMark's WirelessMon (it's only a 30-day eval,
didn't want to
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