RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V

2010-10-28 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Nope, I am 'Neon'. Kawi Nomad. From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 10:36 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V " 'What is the best oil for my motorcycle'." LOL ... sounds all too familiar ...

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2010-10-28 Thread Erik Goldoff
Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:08 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V > > It's like religion. > > > > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ > ~ &l

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2010-10-27 Thread Jon Harris
Sorry did not look it up but the fix I am thinking of was on the MS TechNet site and involved a registry hack. Jon On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Richard Stovall wrote: > Is wbadmin what you're referring to? > > > http://www.mcbsys.com/techblog/2009/11/setting-up-windows-server-backup-on-hyp

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2010-10-27 Thread Carl Houseman
;t look like it's supported.. From: stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org [mailto:stephan.b...@bdtechnology.org] On Behalf Of Stephan Barr Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V "Anybody have a > free/inexpensive backup solution that w

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2010-10-27 Thread Sam Cayze
ay, October 27, 2010 12:07 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V "Anybody have a > free/inexpensive backup solution that will backup a live Hyper-V VM?" Acronis TI server should do that. Not free but not really expensive On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 10:32

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2010-10-27 Thread Steven M. Caesare
I had an older HP with embedded RAID controller that had the same issue. -sc From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 7:42 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V "ESXi, but the last one wasn't supported for

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2010-10-26 Thread Richard Stovall
Is wbadmin what you're referring to? http://www.mcbsys.com/techblog/2009/11/setting-up-windows-server-backup-on-hyper-v-server-2008-r2/ On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jon Harris wrote: > There is a fix that I would have to go looking for again but it used the > built-in backup on the host to

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2010-10-26 Thread Sam Cayze
"ESXi, but the last one wasn't supported for it's raid" From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:35 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V There is a fix that I would have to go looking for again b

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2010-10-26 Thread Jon Harris
There is a fix that I would have to go looking for again but it used the built-in backup on the host to do the entire machine host and vms all live. I had 6 VM's running on a Dell 2950. Total on box about 1.3 GB and it would take about 2 to 4 hours to do the full image backups and the VMs stayed l

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2010-10-26 Thread Jon Harris
hey are adequate for this kind of need. Performance, with a properly > configured system, shouldn't be an issue, either. > > -Malcolm > > -Original Message- > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 08:

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2010-10-26 Thread Steven Peck
> > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 AM > > To: NT System Admin Issues > > Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V > > > > +1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party

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2010-10-26 Thread Tony Patton
a religious war. You will find people who like > one or the other. Personally I am a huge ESX fan. > > -Original Message- > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject

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2010-10-26 Thread Sam Cayze
some ways) ESX: Consolidated Backup Hyper-V: DPM Sam -Original Message- From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 3:38 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V Quick question: Would you run Disk2vhd on each Hyper-V VM, or

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2010-10-26 Thread Matthew W. Ross
trict - Original Message - From: Matthew W. Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 11:41:53 -0700 Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V > Awesome! Thanks for this. > > --Matt Ross > Ephrat

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2010-10-26 Thread Raper, Jonathan - Eagle
-Original Message- From: Klint Price [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V Maybe I am naïve, but I am the type who spreads my eggs into multiple baskets. I would rather deal with a Windows exploit in an

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2010-10-26 Thread Matthew W. Ross
Awesome! Thanks for this. --Matt Ross Ephrata School District - Original Message - From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] To: NT System Admin Issues [mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:55:05 -0700 Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V > Look

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2010-10-26 Thread Malcolm Reitz
:09 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V Fair point too, I just know the hassle we had with one Windows server which would semi-freeze where we were pretty sure the culprit was either EMC Powerpath or the Broadcom NIC teaming drivers but (admittedly perhaps due to lack of

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2010-10-26 Thread John Hornbuckle
I have zero experience with VMWare, but I've been using Hyper-V here for a year or so with flawless results. We've moved just about everything over to Hyper-V VMs at this point--from simple things like basic apps to more advanced stuff like Exchange. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor Coun

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2010-10-26 Thread Klint Price
Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V Fair point too, I just know the hassle we had with one Windows server which would semi-freeze where we were pretty sure the culprit was either EMC Powerpath or

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2010-10-26 Thread Steven Peck
w S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* 26 October 2010 17:04 > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V > > > > I'm not getting your point, Paul > > > > Where do these supposed dependencies manifest themselves? The HCL for

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2010-10-26 Thread Paul Hutchings
ssues Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V I'm not getting your point, Paul Where do these supposed dependencies manifest themselves? The HCL for Windows 2008 R2 is still larger than that of vSphere. If you've installed Windows on the box, where else do you need to fiddle with NIC (or

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2010-10-26 Thread Paul Hutchings
colm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: 26 October 2010 17:03 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V I get what you are saying, but I'm not really seeing that as an issue, though. Downloading the VMware ISO with the drivers isn't much different than downloadin

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2010-10-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
combination of third party drivers on the box running hyper-v vs. "download > vsphere ISO, put in drive, boot, install, done". > > -Original Message- > From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] > Sent: 26 October 2010 16:30 > To: NT System Admin Issues >

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2010-10-26 Thread Malcolm Reitz
aul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:52 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V That's exactly my point though, you can end up so dependent upon the right combination of third party drivers on the box running hyper-v vs. "download vsphere ISO, put in

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2010-10-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*>>**The downside of Hyper-V is you have an OS you still have to patch and reboot regularly which may or may not matter to you. * Um... There are quite a number of ESX patches out there, too. http://secunia.com/advisories/vendor/300/ *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) *Exp

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2010-10-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Look at Disk2VHD from SysInternals. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Matthew W. Ross wrote: > We choose Hyper-V because it is an excellent solution for no additional > fee. Also, 5 o

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2010-10-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
;> -Original Message- >> From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 AM >> To: NT System Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V >> >> +1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexi

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2010-10-26 Thread Andrew S. Baker
For your stated needs (and even some growth beyond that), I would use Hyper-V. Both will do the job. *ASB *(My XeeSM Profile) *Exploiting Technology for Business Advantage...* * * On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Kennedy, Jim wrote: > Probably a can of worms he

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2010-10-26 Thread Paul Hutchings
.com] Sent: 26 October 2010 16:30 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V 1) Hyper-V is Windows - whatever drivers you need to run Windows on that hardware is what you need for Hyper-V; no different than any other Windows implementation. If you have a major name server, you'll

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2010-10-26 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Ross [mailto:mr...@ephrataschools.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 11:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: VMWare vs Hyper-V Anybody have a free/inexpensive backup solution that will backup a live Hyper-V VM? I have a server offsite where I want to do a weekly VM image backup for disa

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2010-10-26 Thread Tom Miller
Not mentioned so far but I use Citrix XenServer for my virtualization needs for Windows servers and XenDesktop. It's a good fit if you are already a Citrix shop (we are). Tom Miller Engineer, Information Technology Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board 757-788-0528 >>> "Kennedy, Jim

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2010-10-26 Thread David Lum
I use both Hyper-V (clients) and VMWare (%dayjob%), although admittedly I know Hyper-V from the ground up and VMWare I just mainly create machines and move them around. VMWare is more flexible although 2008 R2 Hyper-V is "good enough for actual use" - even though my clients are on pre-R2 Hyper-V

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2010-10-26 Thread Matthew W. Ross
We choose Hyper-V because it is an excellent solution for no additional fee. Also, 5 of my 6 servers may have been supported by the free ESXi, but the last one wasn't supported for it's raid, forcing us to look for a different solution. The one thing of Hyper-V I was not thrilled about was their

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2010-10-26 Thread Cameron
e best oil for my > motorcycle'. That creates some massive threads, no conclusions and a few > minor flame wars. > > -Original Message- > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:08 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues &g

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2010-10-26 Thread Malcolm Reitz
rom non-EA Microsoft customers, but there's a large and growing amount of Hyper-V knowledge available in the community. -Malcolm -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:paul.hutchi...@mira.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 09:24 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: re: VM

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2010-10-26 Thread Kennedy, Jim
inor flame wars. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:08 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V It's like religion. ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a res

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2010-10-26 Thread Bob Anderson
Message- From: Malcolm Reitz [mailto:malcolm.re...@live.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:23 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V I'll argue the converse - for a small, simple virtual environment as the OP is targeting, Hyper-V is notably easier to configur

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2010-10-26 Thread Paul Hutchings
Personally I'd go with vsphere and look at one of the Essentials bundles as that will give you cluster capability as well as central control from vCenter. I don't have anything against Hyper-V as I've never actually used it, but my reservations and reasons for not doing so are two-fold: 1) Har

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2010-10-26 Thread James Rankin
e or the other. Personally I am a huge ESX fan. > > -Original Message- > From: Garcia-Moran, Carlos [mailto:cgarciamo...@spragueenergy.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 6:59 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V > > +1 For VMware, they ar

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2010-10-26 Thread Malcolm Reitz
Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V +1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party +supported, great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup +does require some extra knowledge but don't think more than learning +Hyper-V from scratch It all depends on

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2010-10-26 Thread Martin Blackstone
Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V +1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party +supported, great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup +does require some extra knowledge but don't think more than learning +Hyper-V from scratch It all depends on your require

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2010-10-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
It's like religion. I support customers that love VMWare and I support customers that love Hyper-V. Personally, I run Hyper-V. I like it. The feature set isn't exactly the same, but it's quite similar. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com

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2010-10-26 Thread Mayo, Bill
...@spragueenergy.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 9:59 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: VMWare vs Hyper-V +1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party +supported, great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup +does require some extra knowledge but don&#

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2010-10-26 Thread Garcia-Moran, Carlos
+1 For VMware, they are by far a more robust, flexible , 3rd party supported, great tools for it. That being said, they aint cheap setup does require some extra knowledge but don't think more than learning Hyper-V from scratch It all depends on your requirements, budget, DR planning etc... I've