[Numpy-discussion] numpy release

2008-04-14 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi Jarrod, any news with the 1.0.5? If you have same prerelease, I'd like to test it. Debian has just moved from python2.4 to python2.5 yesterday, so I'd like to test numpy in advance, I am sure there will be some issues to fix. Ondrej ___ Numpy-discuss

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Win32 installer: please test it

2008-04-14 Thread Gary Ruben
Tested fine on my old Classic Athlon 500 (no SSE) under Win98. It correctly reported installing the non-SSE version when I clicked on the details button on the last page of the install wizard. Whereas previously numpy.test() would bring up an illegal operation dialog box, now all tests pass. Ni

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Win32 installer: please test it

2008-04-14 Thread joep
Everything installed without problem on Intel Pentium M on my notebook recognized as SSE2 capable. Installer found Python 2.5. immediately, which I just installed and all my windows environment settings are still setup for python 2.4 Thanks, Josef >>> numpy.test() Numpy is installed in C:\Progra

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Win32 installer: please test it

2008-04-14 Thread Jarrod Millman
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 8:24 PM, David Cournapeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think I got the problem. Now, I got it working on my two vmware > windows at hand. Could you try this: > > > http://www.ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp/members/david/archives/numpy-superpack-python2.5.exe Did you have a pr

[Numpy-discussion] ones with non-native dtype byteorder

2008-04-14 Thread Eric Firing
This (on little-endian machine) surprised me: In [23]:np.ones((1,), dtype='http://projects.scipy.org/mailman/listinfo/numpy-discussion

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ones with non-native dtype byteorder

2008-04-14 Thread Robert Kern
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Eric Firing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This (on little-endian machine) surprised me: > > In [23]:np.ones((1,), dtype=' Out[23]:array([1], dtype=int16) > > In [24]:np.ones((1,), dtype='>i2') > Out[24]:array([256], dtype=int16) > > I expected the value to be [1

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Win32 installer: please test it (Bill Baxter)

2008-04-14 Thread Neil Crighton
The Win32 installer works on my Vista machine. There is one failed test, but I think that's just because it tries to write somewhere it doesn't have permission - I installed Python in /Program Files/Python25/, and you need to be an administrator to write to Program Files/. Here's the error messag

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ones with non-native dtype byteorder

2008-04-14 Thread Travis E. Oliphant
Robert Kern wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Eric Firing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This (on little-endian machine) surprised me: >> >> In [23]:np.ones((1,), dtype='> Out[23]:array([1], dtype=int16) >> >> In [24]:np.ones((1,), dtype='>i2') >> Out[24]:array([256], dtype=int16) >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Win32 installer: please test it

2008-04-14 Thread Bruce Southey
Hi, The installer requires 2.5 but that is not explicitly stated. Given that numpy and scipy technically require Python 2.3 as a minimum, the installer should support Python 2.3 and Python 2.4. Otherwise, it needs to clearly state that Python 2.5 is a must. I did install Python 2.5.2 on my WIndows

Re: [Numpy-discussion] ones with non-native dtype byteorder

2008-04-14 Thread Eric Firing
Travis E. Oliphant wrote: > Robert Kern wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Eric Firing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> This (on little-endian machine) surprised me: >>> >>> In [23]:np.ones((1,), dtype='>> Out[23]:array([1], dtype=int16) >>> >>> In [24]:np.ones((1,), dtype='>i2') >>>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Win32 installer: please test it

2008-04-14 Thread David Cournapeau
Bruce Southey wrote: > Hi, > The installer requires 2.5 but that is not explicitly stated. Given > that numpy and scipy technically require Python 2.3 as a minimum, the > installer should support Python 2.3 and Python 2.4. Otherwise, it > needs to clearly state that Python 2.5 is a must. > Stri

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Win32 installer: please test it (Bill Baxter)

2008-04-14 Thread David Cournapeau
Neil Crighton wrote: > The Win32 installer works on my Vista machine. There is one failed > test, but I think that's just because it tries to write somewhere it > doesn't have permission - I installed Python in /Program > Files/Python25/, and you need to be an administrator to write to > Program F

[Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Travis E. Oliphant
After the SciPy sprints some useful discussions took place that helped us all realize that we have made enough changes to the code base that we will need to call any release from the trunk 1.1 I don't think that is a big problem. However, there have also been a lot of substantial bug fixes t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Jarrod Millman
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Travis E. Oliphant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, the question is. Do we have enough energy in the community to > release the current trunk as 1.1 as well as release 1.0.5 which does not > contain any of the code/api changes, but just the bug fixes? The answe

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Travis E. Oliphant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After the SciPy sprints some useful discussions took place that helped > us all realize that we have made enough changes to the code base that we > will need to call any release from the trunk 1.1 > > I don't think t

[Numpy-discussion] NumPy release numbering

2008-04-14 Thread Jarrod Millman
Hey, This is just a short note to explain the plan for future release numbering. Basically, we are just going to be much more rigorous about following everyone's expectations about release numbers. 1.1.0 will be released ASAP and will include some minor API breakage and new features 1.1.x will

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread David Cournapeau
Charles R Harris wrote: > > I think we have a long way to go to get to 1.1. What API changes have > we made that are so great that we can't release 1.0.5? The only area > where I have seen real problems is in masked arrays. My preference > would be to release the trunk as 1.0.5, and if not, simp

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Jarrod Millman
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Charles R Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think we have a long way to go to get to 1.1. What API changes have we > made that are so great that we can't release 1.0.5? The only area where I > have seen real problems is in masked arrays. My preference would be

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Jarrod Millman
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Jarrod Millman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Charles R Harris > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think we have a long way to go to get to 1.1. What API changes have we > > made that are so great that we can't release 1.0.5? The o

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Charles R Harris
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Jarrod Millman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Charles R Harris > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think we have a long way to go to get to 1.1. What API changes have we > > made that are so great that we can't release 1.0.5? The onl

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Jarrod Millman
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:38 PM, Charles R Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Let's not rush 1.1, then. I think with another week or two we should be able > to settle most of the outstanding bugs and it would be good to do so before > getting caught up in planning 1.2. +1. I think that we are s

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Alan G Isaac
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Charles R Harris apparently wrote: > Let's not rush 1.1, then. Will matrix behavior change in 1.1, as discussed from time to time? Perhaps it just takes a very small change in __getitem__: http://www.mail-archive.com/numpy-discussion@scipy.org/msg07363.html> Cheers, Alan I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Jarrod Millman
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Alan G Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Charles R Harris apparently wrote: > > Let's not rush 1.1, then. > > Will matrix behavior change in 1.1, as discussed from time > to time? Perhaps it just takes a very small change in __getitem__: >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Robert Kern
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:33 AM, Jarrod Millman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Alan G Isaac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Charles R Harris apparently wrote: > > > Let's not rush 1.1, then. > > > > Will matrix behavior change in 1.1, as dis

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread Jarrod Millman
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:38 PM, Robert Kern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given that the next release will be 1.1, I think it is reasonable to > > include a few additional API breaks. > > -lots. I don't want to break API compatibility again no matter what > version number we bump to, 1.1,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Release of NumPy

2008-04-14 Thread David Cournapeau
Robert Kern wrote: > > -lots. I don't want to break API compatibility again no matter what > version number we bump to, 1.1, 2.0, or 24. It is simply not okay to > do this again and again. > > I didn't dare saying anything, but now that I see I am not the only one, I can sheepishly say I agree