[Numpy-discussion] All of the PyData videos are now up at the Marakana site

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
Hi folks, A number of you expressed interest in attending the PyData workshop last month and unfortunately we had very tight space restrictions. But thanks to the team at Marakana, who pitched in and were willing to film, edit and post videos for many of the talks, you can access them all here: h

[Numpy-discussion] [Meta] Was: Re: Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
[ Making a separate thread so the NA one can stay on topic, since I haven't actually followed the discussion well enough to contribute on the technical points ] On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > The absurd over-statement is the following: > > " I'm afraid I have to disagree

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Tim Cera
I have never found mailing lists good places for discussion and consensus. I think the format itself does not lend itself to involvement, carefully considered (or the ability to change) positions, or voting since all of it can be so easily lost within all of the quoting, the back and forth, people

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Matthew Brett
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Brett > wrote: >> Right - but that would be an absurd overstatement of what I said. >> There's no point in addressing something I didn't say and no sensible >> person would think.   Indeed, it mak

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Right - but that would be an absurd overstatement of what I said. > There's no point in addressing something I didn't say and no sensible > person would think.   Indeed, it makes the discussion harder. Well, in that case neither Eric Firing

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Brett > wrote: >> I'm glad to hear that discussion is happening, but please do have it >> on list.   If it's off list it easy for people to feel they are being >> bypassed, and that the publi

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: > I'm glad to hear that discussion is happening, but please do have it > on list.   If it's off list it easy for people to feel they are being > bypassed, and that the public discussion is not important. I'm afraid I have to disagree: you see

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Eric Firing
On 04/17/2012 08:40 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Matthew Brett >> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: Mark and I will have conversations about N

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Matthew Brett > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> Mark and I will have conversations about NumPy while he is in Austin.   >>> There are many other activ

Re: [Numpy-discussion] f2py with int8

2012-04-17 Thread John Mitchell
Thanks Paul. I suppose this is now going slightly out of bounds for f2py. What I am looking for is the fortran kind type for a byte. I thought that this was int8. I guess the question is how to identify the kind type. Although I have verified that integer(1) seems to work for me, I would real

Re: [Numpy-discussion] f2py with int8

2012-04-17 Thread Paul Anton Letnes
Ah, come to think of it, I think that f2py only supports literal kind values. Maybe that's your problem. Paul On 17. apr. 2012, at 07:58, Sameer Grover wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2012 11:02 AM, John Mitchell wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am using f2py to pass a numpy array of type numpy.int8 to fort

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> Mark and I will have conversations about NumPy while he is in Austin.   >> There are many other active stake-holders whose opinions and views are >> essential for major cha

Re: [Numpy-discussion] f2py with int8

2012-04-17 Thread John Mitchell
Thanks Sameer. I confirmed on my side as well. I will try to understand the why part now. Much appreciated. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Sameer Grover wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2012 11:02 AM, John Mitchell wrote: > > Hi, > > I am using f2py to pass a numpy array of type numpy.int8 to

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Removing masked arrays for 1.7? (Was 1.7 blockers)

2012-04-17 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:44 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Basically, there are two sets of changes as far as I understand right now: > >        1) ufunc infrastructure understands masked arrays >        2) ndarray grew attributes to represent masked arrays > > I am proposing that we keep 1) but ch