April 2009 05:08
To: Discussion of Numerical Python
Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:43 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, David Cournapeau
courn...@gmail.com wrote:
We need
-boun...@scipy.org] On Behalf Of David
Cournapeau
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Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:37, David Cournapeau courn
On 4/15/2009 6:44 PM, Matthieu Brucher wrote:
There is a Python limitation for the compiler.
There is a common misunderstanding that only VS2003 can be used to
compile extension objects for Python 2.5. Don't believe it. There is no
Python limitation for the compiler.
There is a Python
Sturla Molden wrote:
On 4/15/2009 6:44 PM, Matthieu Brucher wrote:
There is a Python limitation for the compiler.
There is a common misunderstanding that only VS2003 can be used to
compile extension objects for Python 2.5. Don't believe it. There is no
Python limitation for the
On 4/17/2009 10:50 AM, David Cournapeau wrote:
I think Matthieu meant you have to use VS2003 as a MS compiler. Mingw is
obviously fine, since that's how numpy binaries are built for quite a
long time
That is what I thought he meant as well, and it seems to be a widespread
belief. The fact
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:48:57AM +0200, Sturla Molden wrote:
I use this 32 bit mingw binary to build my Cython and f2py extensions. I
works like a charm. I have licenses for Intel compilers at work, but I
prefer gfortran 4.4.
Could you elaborate on your reason.
Gaël
On 4/17/2009 11:50 AM, Gael Varoquaux wrote:
Could you elaborate on your reason.
Probably silly reasons though...
I have a distutils.cfg file and a build system set up that works. I
don't want to bother setting up a different build system when I already
have one that works. I can use the
I know this is the wrong forum, but:
Yet another reason Python itself needs a standard, supported way to
handle package versioning.
*sigh*
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Robert Kern wrote:
It is David's desire to
distribute numpy builds with optimized BLASes that does not fit into
eggs, not numpy. Plain numpy eggs are really straightforward.
There may be a misunderstanding: I would not mind distributing something
without optimized BLAS. Not using atlas at
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:27, David Cournapeau
da...@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
It is David's desire to
distribute numpy builds with optimized BLASes that does not fit into
eggs, not numpy. Plain numpy eggs are really straightforward.
There may be a misunderstanding: I
Fadhley Salim wrote:
I've been asked to provide Numpy Scipy as python egg files.
Unfortunately Numpy and Scipy do not make official releases of their
product in .egg form for a Win32 platform - that means if I want eggs
then I have to compile them myself.
I think having a simple .exe
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 12:50:59AM -0500, Robert Kern wrote:
PEAK's setuptools is fragile with complex packages. This is the core
reason numpy is not distributed as an egg, as the implications on what
numpy would have to do to 'fit' in an egg compromise numpy's instal
quality (read: random
Robert Kern wrote:
I have found that people are more willing to accept that they have to
do something different to get a technically chalenging feature (i.e.
use a particular installer to get a safe, optimized BLAS) than to
accept that a relatively straightforward feature is not available at
David Cournapeau wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
I have found that people are more willing to accept that they have to
do something different to get a technically chalenging feature (i.e.
use a particular installer to get a safe, optimized BLAS) than to
accept that a relatively straightforward
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 01:52, David Cournapeau
da...@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp wrote:
David Cournapeau wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
I have found that people are more willing to accept that they have to
do something different to get a technically chalenging feature (i.e.
use a particular installer
Robert Kern wrote:
easy_install is documented to be able to find and convert a
bdist_wininst .exe on the fly, so I believe that should be sufficient.
Yes, I've tried locally on a bdist_wininst exe, and easy_install could
install it. I have not tested it from the network.
It might be
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 04:02:01PM +0900, David Cournapeau wrote:
What about just pushing the non optimized bdist_wininst installer on
pypi ?
With a clear note saying that they are non optimised.
G.
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On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 02:02, David Cournapeau
da...@ar.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp wrote:
Robert Kern wrote:
easy_install is documented to be able to find and convert a
bdist_wininst .exe on the fly, so I believe that should be sufficient.
Yes, I've tried locally on a bdist_wininst exe, and
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[mailto:numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org] On Behalf Of Pauli Virtanen
Sent: 15 April 2009 20:55
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Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
I think it might work if you separate
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Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
Hi Sal,
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/ticket/1086
I filed this under numpy since that's
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
No joy yet - this time a completely different error. I just tried r6871 and
r6872...
http://pastebin.com/d4d240b36
do you have g77 included in mingw and on your path?
Josef
To: Discussion of Numerical Python
Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 00:45, Gael Varoquaux
gael.varoqu...@normalesup.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 07:33:48PM +0100, Fadhley Salim wrote:
We deploy on a very large number of computers in 5
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:10 AM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
No joy yet - this time a completely different error. I just tried r6871 and
r6872...
http://pastebin.com/d4d240b36
do you have g77 included in
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:12 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
I agree with Robert
There should be no reason on earth why you cannot use an Egg to package
Numpy.
Actually, there is, although it is not really an egg deficiency. We
use ATLAS as blas/lapack, and ATLAS
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Cournapeau
Sent: 16 April 2009 07:42
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Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
I think having a simple .exe installer
[mailto:numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org] On Behalf Of David
Cournapeau
Sent: 16 April 2009 07:50
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Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
Robert Kern wrote:
I have found that people are more willing to accept that they have to
do something
We need to be able to run both projects concurrently on the same grid.
Setuptools + eggs allows this to happen. If we used .exe installers then
we could only have one single version of any given dependancy at any
time and so we would not be able to run the two projects in paralell.
I think
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
I just installed the latest stable mingw, and made sure that the mingw
bin directory is in my PATH. I used the command you suggested and got
the following output:
http://pastebin.com/m4aea512c
Could you make
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote:
We need to be able to run both projects concurrently on the same grid.
Setuptools + eggs allows this to happen. If we used .exe installers then
we could only have one single version of any given dependancy at any
time
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:43 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 12:25 AM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com
wrote:
We need to be able to run both projects concurrently on the same grid.
Setuptools + eggs allows this to happen. If we used .exe installers
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it will try to collect all of the possibilities by looking at
PyPI and the download link, then decide on the best one. But it could
be that if there are files on PyPI, it will only consider those. I
don't know.
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:37, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Robert Kern robert.k...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it will try to collect all of the possibilities by looking at
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 23:45, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote:
Since I am not an egg user myself, I wonder whether it would be useful
to make numpy zip-safe ? Can it be done without numpy relying on
setuptools, or do we have to use setuptools for pkg_resources (maybe
pkg_resources
I've been asked to provide Numpy Scipy as python egg files.
Unfortunately Numpy and Scipy do not make official releases of their
product in .egg form for a Win32 platform - that means if I want eggs
then I have to compile them myself.
At the moment my employer provides Visual Studio.Net 2003,
] Compiling for free on Windows32
Hi,
There is a Python limitation for the compiler. if you have 2.5 or less,
you're stuck with VS2003, if you have 2.6, you can use 2008 (or 2005, I don't
remember). If you use numscons, you can go with any of them (at your own
risks).
You can also use mingw
: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
Hi,
There is a Python limitation for the compiler. if you have 2.5 or less,
you're stuck with VS2003, if you have 2.6, you can use 2008 (or 2005, I don't
remember). If you use numscons, you can go with any of them (at your own
risks
Fadhley Salim schrieb:
So what is the official way to compile Numpy 1.3.0 for Python 2.4.x?
If Visual Studio 2003 will not compile it and nothing else is
intended to work, then surely nothing will work? That cannot be
right.
PS. Perhaps there is another way to do it... compiling for me is
!
:-)
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[mailto:numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Heller
Sent: 15 April 2009 18:48
To: numpy-discussion@scipy.org
Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
Fadhley Salim schrieb:
So what is the official
2009/4/15 Fadhley Salim fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com:
So what is the official way to compile Numpy 1.3.0 for Python 2.4.x? If
Visual Studio 2003 will not compile it and nothing else is intended to work,
then surely nothing will work? That cannot be right.
Mingw is used to compile numpy and
Fadhley Salim wrote:
Thomasm,
What want is the current latest Numpy as a win32 .egg file for Python
2.4.4. I'm not bothered how I get there. We've been able to compile
* Dont care how I make it as long as it works!
Are you aware that the reason numpy is not distributed as an .egg is so
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Fadhley Salim fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com
wrote:
Thomasm,
What want is the current latest Numpy as a win32 .egg file for Python
2.4.4. I'm not bothered how I get there. We've been able to compile
numpy 1.1.1 on visual studio 2003 with no problems at all.
Mingw is used to compile numpy and scipy AFAIK.
So if I just grab Mingw I should be able to compile the latest stuff
with no problems? Will that work perfectly with my standard Python.org
Cpython distribution?
Why is exe files a problem ?
We deploy on a very large number of computers in 5
...@scipy.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Straw
Sent: 15 April 2009 19:31
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Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
Fadhley Salim wrote:
Thomasm,
What want is the current latest Numpy as a win32 .egg file for Python
2.4.4. I'm not bothered how I get
...@scipy.org
[mailto:numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org] On Behalf Of Charles R
Harris
Sent: 15 April 2009 19:32
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Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote
Hi Sal,
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Fadhley Salim fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com
wrote:
Chuck,
I'm not all that familiar with the bug reporting process but if you were to
point me to the relevant bug tracker I'd be delighted to file an issue. If I
could get somebody to fix this
From: numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org
[mailto:numpy-discussion-boun...@scipy.org] On Behalf Of Charles R
Harris
Sent: 15 April 2009 20:01
To: Discussion of Numerical Python
Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] Compiling for free on Windows32
Hi Sal,
On Wed, Apr 15
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
I've been asked to provide Numpy Scipy as python egg files.
Unfortunately Numpy and Scipy do not make official releases of their
product in .egg form for a Win32 platform - that means if I want eggs
then I have
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
I've been asked to provide Numpy Scipy as python egg files.
Unfortunately Numpy and Scipy do not make official releases of their
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:17 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
I've been asked to provide Numpy Scipy as python egg files.
Unfortunately Numpy and Scipy do not make official releases of their
Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:42:05 -0400, josef.pktd wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
I've been asked to provide Numpy Scipy as python egg files.
Unfortunately Numpy
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Pauli Virtanen p...@iki.fi wrote:
Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:42:05 -0400, josef.pktd wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:17 PM, David Cournapeau courn...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.com wrote:
I've been asked
Hi! What I do is make a distutils.cfg file and put in the
$PYTHONHOME/Lib/distutils
directory (for me, c:\python25\lib\distutils)
and then it will use mingw32 for the compilation. I've attached the one I
use.
Cheers,
William
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 4:06 PM, josef.p...@gmail.com wrote:
On
Hi Sal,
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Fadhley Salim
fadhley.sa...@uk.calyon.comwrote:
http://projects.scipy.org/numpy/ticket/1086
I filed this under numpy since that's what I am trying to compile. Please
feel free to correct if you think I've mis-described the fault. I'm heading
home
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 00:45, Gael Varoquaux
gael.varoqu...@normalesup.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 07:33:48PM +0100, Fadhley Salim wrote:
We deploy on a very large number of computers in 5 countries.
PEAK's Setuptools gives us the ability to do all this deployment
automatically. If we
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