Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-30 Thread josef . pktd
On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Christoph Gohlke wrote: >> On 6/26/2012 8:13 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: For the main repos we use buildbot and test on: Ubuntu Maverick 32-bit Debian sid 64-bit OSX 10.4 PPC

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-29 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:38 AM, Christoph Gohlke wrote: > On 6/26/2012 8:13 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> For the main repos we use buildbot and test on: >>> >>> Ubuntu Maverick 32-bit >>> Debian sid 64-bit >>> OSX 10.4 PPC >>> OSX 10.5 Intel >>> Debian wheezy PPC >>> Debian squeeze ARM (a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-27 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Peter Wang wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:20 AM, John Hunter wrote: > >> because the original developers are gone. So people are loathe to > >> upgrade. It is certainly true that deprecations t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-27 Thread Peter Wang
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:20 AM, John Hunter wrote: >> because the original developers are gone.  So people are loathe to >> upgrade.  It is certainly true that deprecations that have lived for a >> single point release cycle have not bee

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-27 Thread Charles R Harris
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 7:20 AM, John Hunter wrote: > > Some examples would be nice. A lot of people did move already. And I > haven't > > seen reports of those that tried and got stuck. Also, Debian and > Python(x, > > y) have 1.6.2, EPD has 1.6.1. > > In my company, the numpy for our production

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-27 Thread John Hunter
> Some examples would be nice. A lot of people did move already. And I haven't > seen reports of those that tried and got stuck. Also, Debian and Python(x, > y) have 1.6.2, EPD has 1.6.1. In my company, the numpy for our production python install is well behind 1.6. In the world of trading, the u

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-27 Thread Jonathan T. Niehof
On 06/26/2012 06:15 PM, Skipper Seabold wrote: > My uninformed opinion from the sidelines: For me, this begged the > question of why projects would wait so long and be upgrading 1.5.x -> > 1.7.x. it sounded to me like an outreach problem. lenny: none squeeze: 1.4.1 wheezy: 1.6.2 hardy: 1.0.4 luci

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-27 Thread Christoph Gohlke
On 6/26/2012 8:13 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> For the main repos we use buildbot and test on: >> >> Ubuntu Maverick 32-bit >> Debian sid 64-bit >> OSX 10.4 PPC >> OSX 10.5 Intel >> Debian wheezy PPC >> Debian squeeze ARM (a Raspberry PI no less) >> WIndows XP 32 bit >> SPARC (courtesy of our frie

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Ondřej Čertík
Hi Matthew, On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Ondřej Čertík >> wrote: >>> Do you use anything else besides Travis CI? >> >> Yes, we use both Shining Panda and Travis CI: >>

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Ondřej Čertík
Hi Fernando, On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Ondřej Čertík > wrote: >> Do you use anything else besides Travis CI? > > Yes, we use both Shining Panda and Travis CI: > > https://jenkins.shiningpanda.com/ipython/ With NumPy, I am still th

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> For the main repos we use buildbot and test on: >> >> Ubuntu Maverick 32-bit >> Debian sid 64-bit >> OSX 10.4 PPC >> OSX 10.5 Intel >> Debian wheezy PPC >> Debian squeeze ARM (a Raspberry PI no less) >> WIndows XP 32 bit >> SPARC (cou

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Travis Oliphant
> For the main repos we use buildbot and test on: > > Ubuntu Maverick 32-bit > Debian sid 64-bit > OSX 10.4 PPC > OSX 10.5 Intel > Debian wheezy PPC > Debian squeeze ARM (a Raspberry PI no less) > WIndows XP 32 bit > SPARC (courtesy of our friends at NeuroDebian) > > http://nipy.bic.berkeley.edu/

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:00 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Ondřej Čertík > wrote: >> Do you use anything else besides Travis CI? > > Yes, we use both Shining Panda and Travis CI: > > https://jenkins.shiningpanda.com/ipython/ > http://travis-ci.org/#!/ipython/i

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > Do you use anything else besides Travis CI? Yes, we use both Shining Panda and Travis CI: https://jenkins.shiningpanda.com/ipython/ http://travis-ci.org/#!/ipython/ipython The SP setup is more complete, including Mac and Windows bots. > I

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Ondřej Čertík
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> One issues is the one that Sage identified about the array interface >> regression as noted by Jason.    Any other regressions from 1.5.x need to be >> addressed as well.    We'll h

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Wes McKinney
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 8:15 PM, Skipper Seabold wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> One issues is the one that Sage identified about the array interface >>> regression as noted by Jason.    Any other regr

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Skipper Seabold
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:59 PM, Fernando Perez wrote: > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> One issues is the one that Sage identified about the array interface >> regression as noted by Jason.    Any other regressions from 1.5.x need to be >> addressed as well.    We'll h

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Fernando Perez
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > One issues is the one that Sage identified about the array interface > regression as noted by Jason.    Any other regressions from 1.5.x need to be > addressed as well.    We'll have to decide on a case-by-case basis if there > are issues t

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > >> Unfortunately, I think there are issues we are just now seeing with code >> that was released in 1.6.x, and there are many people who have not moved >> forward to 1.6.x yet. >> > > Some examples would be nice. A lot of people did move a

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Travis Oliphant
> > Unfortunately, I think there are issues we are just now seeing with code that > was released in 1.6.x, and there are many people who have not moved forward > to 1.6.x yet. > > Some examples would be nice. A lot of people did move already. And I haven't > seen reports of those that tr

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Jason Grout
On 6/26/12 2:48 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > Unfortunately, I think there are issues we are just now seeing with > code that was released in 1.6.x, and there are many people who have > not moved forward to 1.6.x yet. > > > Some examples would be nice. I'll bite. Here's an issue that pre

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 9:20 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On Jun 26, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > >> >> Hey all, >> >> After some more investigation, I'm not optimistic that we will be able to >> get a 1.7 release out bef

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Jun 26, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > Hey all, > > After some more investigation, I'm not optimistic that we will be able to get > a 1.7 release out before SciPy. I would like to get a beta release out by > SciP

Re: [Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > Hey all, > > After some more investigation, I'm not optimistic that we will be able to > get a 1.7 release out before SciPy. I would like to get a beta release > out by SciPy (or even an rc1 release). But, given the number of code > c

[Numpy-discussion] NumPy 1.7 release delays

2012-06-26 Thread Travis Oliphant
Hey all, After some more investigation, I'm not optimistic that we will be able to get a 1.7 release out before SciPy. I would like to get a beta release out by SciPy (or even an rc1 release). But, given the number of code changes and differences between 1.5.x and 1.7, I think we will nee