Re: [nycwireless] T-Mobile brings in $13 bucks a day

2004-03-26 Thread Jim Thompson
T1s are composed of two "tail circuits", and an Inter-office (IX/IXC) portion. You're never going to eliminate the tail circuit from the CO out to the location (Starbucks), unless the building where the Starbucks is located is "on-net", of course. We'll call that unlikely for now. If you're a

Re: [nycwireless] T-Mobile brings in $13 bucks a day

2004-03-26 Thread Jim Thompson
Bet on it. The cost of the *average* T1 at Wayport (including the channelized DS3s where they terminated) was $230. T-mobile is a carrier. I assure you their per-mile rate on T1s is quite low, and they have (real) co-lo with the Bells. Any IXC probably runs on fiber that they own or lease, so

[nycwireless] Fwd: Strangled telecom: how a "natural monopoly" stays that way

2004-03-26 Thread Joe Plotkin
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:32:24 -0500 From: Andy Oram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Strangled telecom: how a "natural monopoly" stays that way To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4616 Strangled telecom: how a "natural monopoly" stays that way Andy Oram URL: ht

RE: [nycwireless] T-Mobile brings in $13 bucks a day

2004-03-26 Thread Nigel Ballard
Jon I took a low national corporate rate to give them the benefit of the doubt. I can get you a one-off T-1 in downtown Portland for $530, but in Montana it might run you $900. I'm assuming T-Mobile cut killer deals on their T-1's. Cheers Nigel Nigel Ballard [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.joejav

Re: [nycwireless] T-Mobile brings in $13 bucks a day

2004-03-26 Thread jon baer
> Take an average T-1 monthly cost of $480 and divide it by 31 and you get an > recurring outgoing cost of one single component at $15 a day. Is it really *that* cheap these days? I always thought the figure for a T-1 was around $700+ ... I think your analysis is right on, when you figure a DSL i

RE: [nycwireless] T-Mobile brings in $13 bucks a day

2004-03-26 Thread Nigel Ballard
They may bring in $13 a day, but how much goes out? Take an average T-1 monthly cost of $480 and divide it by 31 and you get an recurring outgoing cost of one single component at $15 a day. Add staff, marketing, the kickback to Starbucks, IBM Global Services, Insurance, marketing etc. It starts

[nycwireless] Asus preps WiFi harddrive ...

2004-03-26 Thread jon baer
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/69/36534.html -snip- Asus is promising to "change your perception on data storage" when it releases what may be the world's first Wi-Fi enabled network-attached hard drive storage system. -snip- i personally wish they made these dirt dirt cheap, im sure it cou

[nycwireless] T-Mobile brings in $13 bucks a day

2004-03-26 Thread jon baer
from techdirt: -snip- Glenn Fleishman is looking at the numbers and figures that T-Mobile is bringing in approximately $13/day per hotspot they're running. Not particularly overwhelming - especially when their "daypass" rates are $10/day. As Glenn points out, they're a long way from making WiFi pa