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Jim Henry wrote:
Frank,
Thank you for the intelligent, real world points you brought up.
Jim
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> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
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> On the matter of some networks working and some not, where is
> the board going
>
> with this line of discussion? Does anyone here seriously
> think that either the
>
> left or the right has
Further to my point of earler today about BT of the UK loosening its control of
the local loop, this article addresses the inauguration of newly formed
OpenReach.
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BT cuts ribbon on new Openreach biz
Warm white wine and canapes all round
By Tim Richardson Wednesday 11th January 2006
The
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Frank Coluccio wrote:
> As for Verizon going bankrupt, that's another discussion, possibly
> another several discussions, entirely. If the consumer wireline side
> ever did become distressed due to the misadventures of FiOS, then you
> might see something occurring similar to
Hi Alex,
I failed to mention in my previous post that AT&T is also waiting for the IPTV
software fixes from MSFT and others, IN ADDITION to its copper handicap at the
present time.
No argument w.r.t.:
"The jury is still *way* out what is the right way. ADSL2 is enough
capacity to give you video.
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> Jim,
>
> This is my last response to you, because you seem to be doing what
> many right-wing politicians are quite good at: changing
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Frank Coluccio wrote:
> On the matter of some networks working and some not, where is the board
> going with this line of discussion? Does anyone here seriously think
> that either the left or the right has a lock against this phenomenon
> from occurring? Sure, first rounds of
On the matter of some networks working and some not, where is the board going
with this line of discussion? Does anyone here seriously think that either the
left or the right has a lock against this phenomenon from occurring? Sure, first
rounds of anything have their fair share of flops. Look at IP
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> > Jim,
> >
> > This is my last response to you, because you seem to be doing what
> > many right-wing politicians are quite good at: chan
I am tired of this conservative bashing. I am leaving this list!!
g b all
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From: "Dana Spiegel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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anuary 12, 2006 11:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
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> Jim,
> Freepress must be terrible because they are not a mouthpiece
> for huge tel
On Behalf
Of Dana Spiegel
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Jim,
Perhaps you should do a bit more research.
The PFF is well known to rely on half-truths and misre
e you?
Jim
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> From: Dustin Goodwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: 'Dana Spiegel'; nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
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> Jim,
> Freepress must be terrible because they are not a mouthpiece for huge
> telecom corporations. Your right they can't be trusted. Persona
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> Sourcewatch.org (formerly Disinfopedia.org) gives a better
> background on PFF:
> * Lists as supporters BellSouth, EchoStar Communications
> Corporation, Sprint, Philip Morris, and RJ Reynolds
> * Was the t
wireless@lists.nycwireless.net
> Subject: RE: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
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> Give it up.!
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> Go back to technology
>
>
>
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view.
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
Jim,
Pe
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This report is authored by the Progress & Freedom people that
have been
widely outed as "Astroturf" outfit. Astroturf is new use of
the term to
describe fake consumer groups and think tanks that are jus
Sourcewatch.org (formerly Disinfopedia.org) gives a better background
on PFF:
* Lists as supporters BellSouth, EchoStar Communications Corporation,
Sprint, Philip Morris, and RJ Reynolds
* Was the thinktank behind Newt Gingrich's project to redesign the FDA
(the leader of Gingrich's PAC is on the b
re.
Is public policy advocacy only OK with you when it is promoting leftist
policy?
Jim
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nly OK with you when it is promoting leftist
policy?
Jim
> -Original Message-
> From: Dustin Goodwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nycwireless]
Dana Spiegel
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> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
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> Jim,
>
> Perhaps you should do a bit more research.
>
> The PFF is w
Dana Spiegel
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:06 AM
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> > Cc: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
> > Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > Perhaps you should d
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Dana Spiegel
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 11:06 AM
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> Cc: nycwireless@lists.nycwireless.net
> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
>
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> Jim,
>
> Perhaps y
This report is authored by the Progress & Freedom people that have been
widely outed as "Astroturf" outfit. Astroturf is new use of the term to
describe fake consumer groups and think tanks that are just funded with
money from Verizon and the like. These firms are nothing but a new form
of lobb
Jim,
Perhaps you should do a bit more research.
The PFF is well known to rely on half-truths and misrepresentations
of fact to support their anti-municipal agenda.
Free Press has released a white paper that provides the whole story,
and if you look at government broadband initiatives, they
ists.nycwireless.net
> Subject: Re: [nycwireless] Governement run telecom and broadband
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>
>
> Id quite like to see governments getting out of the telecom
> [monopoly]
> buisness.
>
>
>
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Jim Henry wrote:
>
> > Date: Mon, 9
Try looking up "market failure" in Google. OK? It's a classic field of
study within economics. Just try that for a bit. Then consider the
problem of broadband in the US an application of that field of study.
Jim Henry wrote:
Here's an interesting study on government going into the telecom bus
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