Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Stan Rivett
te: *Friday, November 10, 2017 at 3:05 PM > *To: *Stan Rivett > *Cc: *nznog > *Subject: *Re: [nznog] BRAS Options > > > > I’ve not played with IOS-XRv (Cisco’s vMX/vSR equivalent). I seem to > remember they can’t do BNG on it yet though? I maybe be wrong/out of date &g

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Martin Mehaffy
I believe BNG functionality is coming in IOS-XRv 6.3.1 (or thereabouts) From: on behalf of Nathan Ward Date: Friday, November 10, 2017 at 3:05 PM To: Stan Rivett Cc: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] BRAS Options I’ve not played with IOS-XRv (Cisco’s vMX/vSR equivalent). I seem to remember they

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Nathan Ward
> On 8/11/2017, at 11:01 AM, Stan Rivett wrote: > > Hi all > > The time has come to replace my poor old Cisco 7301 and the quote I got for > an ASR1002-HX made my eyes water. Still waiting for a Juniper quote but the > general discussion seemed like similar numbers. > > Are there any other r

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Dave Mill
ehalf of Nathan Brookfield > > *Date: *Friday, 10 November 2017 at 2:58 PM > *To: *Nathan Ward > *Cc: *nznog > > > *Subject: *Re: [nznog] BRAS Options > > > > I don’t know why you’re arguing with me, neither of us know whether they > are using BGP already in

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Nathan Ward
whether by > negligence or otherwise, which may result directly or indirectly from this > communication or any files attached. > > > From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nz...@daork.net] > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:54 PM > To: Nathan Brookfield > Cc: Stan Rivett ; nznog > S

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Tim Price
Two Nathans fighting on NZNOG, who will win?  News at 11. From: on behalf of Nathan Brookfield Date: Friday, 10 November 2017 at 2:58 PM To: Nathan Ward Cc: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] BRAS Options I don’t know why you’re arguing with me, neither of us know whether they are using BGP

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Nathan Brookfield
rom: Nathan Ward [mailto:nz...@daork.net] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:54 PM To: Nathan Brookfield Cc: Stan Rivett ; nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] BRAS Options One expects that BGP is already in place there - why complicate it by having some routes in OSPF and some in BGP, then have to re-arr

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Nathan Ward
hed. > > > From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nz...@daork.net] > Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:48 PM > To: Nathan Brookfield > Cc: Stan Rivett ; nznog > Subject: Re: [nznog] BRAS Options > > Don’t do that. Put customer routes in to BGP, use OSPF only to carry y

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Nathan Brookfield
y files attached. From: Nathan Ward [mailto:nz...@daork.net] Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 12:48 PM To: Nathan Brookfield Cc: Stan Rivett ; nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] BRAS Options Don’t do that. Put customer routes in to BGP, use OSPF only to carry your loopbacks and router-router links for i

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Nathan Ward
directly or indirectly from this > communication or any files attached. > > > From: nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz > [mailto:nznog-boun...@list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Stan Rivett > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 10:52 AM > To: nznog > Subject: Re: [nznog] BRAS Options >

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-09 Thread Nathan Brookfield
sday, November 8, 2017 10:52 AM To: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] BRAS Options The multiple 7301 track was were I had been heading with one in Christchurch and one in Auckland. The problem is that most of our clients are RBI and we have no control over which router they appear on from our connecti

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-08 Thread Peter Lambrechtsen
m memory if every customer is in QinQ > you won't > >>>>>>> be able to have more than 8000 on a MX80 series chassis due to > interface > >>>>>>> limits. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dave > >>

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-08 Thread Andrew Thrift
ry customer is in QinQ you >>>>>>> won't >>>>>>> be able to have more than 8000 on a MX80 series chassis due to interface >>>>>>> limits. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Sam Silvester
Stan Rivett >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Crikey, thanks for all the replies >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes we need 10 Gbit, at least 3 ports and I'd rather not be too >>>&g

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Peter Lambrechtsen
know what its >>>>>> like as an SME, it all comes out of my pocket ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> Stan Rivett >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Netspeed >>>>&g

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Stan Rivett
ME, it all comes out of my pocket ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Stan Rivett >>>>> -- >>>>> Netspeed >>>>> PO Box 5691 >>>>> Dunedin >>>>> P: +64 3 481 7245 <+64%203-48

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Sam Silvester
Stan Rivett >>>> -- >>>> Netspeed >>>> PO Box 5691 >>>> Dunedin >>>> P: +64 3 481 7245 <+64%203-481%207245> >>>> C: +64 21 323 841 <+64%2021%20323%20841> >>>> -- >>&

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Gavin Tweedie
gt;> -- >>> >>> On 8 November 2017 at 11:14, Tim Price wrote: >>> >>>> Juniper MX5 + licensing shouldn’t cost you more than $30k depending on >>>> your Juniper partner status and where you buy it from. >>>> >>

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Sam Silvester
>> >> On 8 November 2017 at 11:14, Tim Price wrote: >> >>> Juniper MX5 + licensing shouldn’t cost you more than $30k depending on >>> your Juniper partner status and where you buy it from. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: * on

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Gavin Tweedie
41 <+64%2021%20323%20841> >> -- >> >> On 8 November 2017 at 11:14, Tim Price wrote: >> >>> Juniper MX5 + licensing shouldn’t cost you more than $30k depending on >>> your Juniper partner status and where you buy it from. >>> &g

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Dave Mill
gt; >> Juniper MX5 + licensing shouldn’t cost you more than $30k depending on >> your Juniper partner status and where you buy it from. >> >> >> >> *From: * on behalf of Stan Rivett < >> s...@netspeed.net.nz> >> *Date: *Wednesday, 8 November 2017 a

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Stan Rivett
; > > *From: * on behalf of Stan Rivett < > s...@netspeed.net.nz> > *Date: *Wednesday, 8 November 2017 at 11:02 AM > *To: *nznog > *Subject: *[nznog] BRAS Options > > > > Hi all > > > > The time has come to replace my poor old Cisco 7301 and the quote

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
Is this something you can potentially do as a VNF play? vSR (virtual 7750) scales up to 80Gbit on commodity x86 metal. I would wager depending on the specifics based on what I think your use case is you can probably just do this as a VNF and forget about metal. On 8 November 2017 at 11:35, Gavin

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Dave Mill
Depends on what your first house costs :) We started on a Juniper MX10 as a BNG which should scale to a few thousand subscribers and should be a similar price to a nice campervan :) You can then move to a MX480 or similar which would probably cost the same as a small house in rural NZ. Both have

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Gavin Tweedie
How many subscribers? What level of throughput? PPPoE? IPoE? On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:01 AM, Stan Rivett wrote: > Hi all > > The time has come to replace my poor old Cisco 7301 and the quote I got > for an ASR1002-HX made my eyes water. Still waiting for a Juniper quote but > the general discus

Re: [nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Damian Kissick
I will concede ignorance to alternatives, which I'm sure others will be able to inform on, but is the ASR1001-X similarly out of reach or missing something that you're looking for? Alternatively, have you thought about grey market? Someone like Dominic at http://www.inveho.nz/ might be able to fi

[nznog] BRAS Options

2017-11-07 Thread Stan Rivett
Hi all The time has come to replace my poor old Cisco 7301 and the quote I got for an ASR1002-HX made my eyes water. Still waiting for a Juniper quote but the general discussion seemed like similar numbers. Are there any other reliable options out there that don't cost more than my first house?