Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread Eve Maler
Hi Brian, On 16 Mar 2010, at 10:51 AM, Brian Eaton wrote: > We didn't talk about the signed identity claims use case. Some > background on that is in this thread: > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/oauth/current/msg00530.html > > Paul - does OpenSocial still need signed identity claims? >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Device Profile

2010-03-16 Thread Shafi, Saleem
Hello.. Is there any interest in being able to respond with multiple oauth_verification_url values? I can forsee the possibility of the Authorization Server being able to support browser-based user verification (http/https) or text messages (assuming we could authenticate the user on sending

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread John Panzer
I would imagine that things like Content-Length: , Content-Encoding: and Cache-Control: would be targets for attacks if they were not protected. There are also a lot of custom X- headers out there with unknown semantics. BTW, another advantage of TLS is that it handles integrity of the HTTP respo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread Zeltsan, Zachary (Zachary)
>Would you care if some proxy or other intermediary changed the contents of >>the Authorization HTTP header? In OAuth 1.0 the oauth_ parameters can be transmitted in the HTTP Authorization header - this is one of the options (and is the preferred one). In that case protection of the Authoriza

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Understanding how OpenSocial uses OAuth 1.0a

2010-03-16 Thread Eric Sachs
Here is one of the original writeups of OpenSocial + 2LO with a scanned napkin drawing :-) http://sites.google.com/site/oauthgoog/2leggedoauth/2opensocialrestapi On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:12 AM, David Recordon wrote: > Kevin Marks has been bugging me for awhile to understand how > OpenSocial ma

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Understanding how OpenSocial uses OAuth 1.0a

2010-03-16 Thread Brian Eaton
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:12 AM, David Recordon wrote: > Kevin Marks has been bugging me for awhile to understand how > OpenSocial makes use of two-legged OAuth.  I reached out to the team > and here's their description (via Evan Gilbert).  In general it seems > like they're more making use of OA

[OAUTH-WG] Understanding how OpenSocial uses OAuth 1.0a

2010-03-16 Thread David Recordon
Kevin Marks has been bugging me for awhile to understand how OpenSocial makes use of two-legged OAuth. I reached out to the team and here's their description (via Evan Gilbert). In general it seems like they're more making use of OAuth's RSA signature mechanism rather than the user authorization

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread John Panzer
SGTM -- I think the tradeoff is interoperable and simple hop-based integrity protection (assuming existing TLS libraries exist) vs. more complicated but full end to end integrity protection (and libraries need to be written). On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:11 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt < tors...@lodderste

[OAUTH-WG] room change in Anaheim!

2010-03-16 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
FYI, the room for our session on Monday has been changed from California B to Redondo. Please make a note of this if you will be in Anaheim! /psa Original Message Subject: OAUTH - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 77 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:57:39 -0700 (PDT) From:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread Brian Eaton
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > Hi all, > > I composed a detailed summary at > http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/SignaturesWhy. Please review > it. We didn't talk about the signed identity claims use case. Some background on that is in this thread: http

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread Ethan Jewett
Thanks Thorsten, this is good. The "Pro Signature" section seemed a little thin to me (pro HTTPS too, though most security pros are included obliquely in the "Powerful" bullet). I changed the "Pro Signature" section to: * Low latency and computational costs (HMAC) * Provides for authentication

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi John, following your arguments, I could add "integrity protection of complete HTTP requests in an interoperable way" the the "pro HTTPS" section? regards, Torsten. Am 16.03.2010 07:22, schrieb John Panzer: I'm confused by one "pro" for signatures: "Protect integrity of whole request - au

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread John Kemp
On Mar 16, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Igor Faynberg wrote: > That's what I have been thinking. Why is it important to sign the headers? > (I am not against signing them, but I cannot see the need in the specific > cases we had discussed. In other words, if I had signed the body of the > request, I prob

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Signatures, Why?

2010-03-16 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
I think signing Authorization Headers would make sense. regards, Torsten. Am 16.03.2010 07:48, schrieb Igor Faynberg: That's what I have been thinking. Why is it important to sign the headers? (I am not against signing them, but I cannot see the need in the specific cases we had discussed. In