Re: [OAUTH-WG] Basic signature support in the core specification

2010-09-25 Thread Eve Maler
It seems like you figured it out pretty quickly, given the message you sent immediately after. :-) Referencing another spec from the core spec using normative text is effectively "including it by reference". I meant that I'm sympathetic (+1) to signaling in core OAuth that signatures are to be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Basic signature support in the core specification

2010-09-25 Thread Dick Hardt
To be clear, I think signatures are important, and I think that standardizing them would be really useful. One of the early complaints about OAuth 1.0 was that the signature mechanism was different than the OpenID mechanism. Having a standard signature mechanism in this space seems like a good t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Basic signature support in the core specification

2010-09-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
My logic is that your suggested organization is based on your personal preferences and what you consider core. If I applied my personal preference, half of core would be elsewhere. My point is that deciding signatures is the part belonging elsewhere is completely subjective to how important one

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Basic signature support in the core specification

2010-09-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I was talking about AS / PR developers. EHL On 9/24/10 10:39 PM, "Dick Hardt" wrote: wrt. developers knowing what they need => I think the AS / PR will tell developers if they need to use signatures, or if they need to use HTTPS, or if they need to use assertions. Sorry for including more t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Basic signature support in the core specification

2010-09-25 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 25.09.2010 04:22, schrieb Eran Hammer-Lahav: OAuth 2.0 is far from being published as an RFC. I estimate it is at least 6 months away from reaching final IESG approval, if not a year. This is mostly due to a significant effort needed in writing and reviewing the security considerations sect

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Basic signature support in the core specification

2010-09-25 Thread Mark Mcgloin
+1 to having it in the core spec. I don't see how an optional section in the spec will cause any confusion +1 to John's suggestion below of starting with the OAuth 1.0a signature mechanism. Why not put it in the spec and see what breaks or no longer holds true Mark McGloin John Panzer wrote o