Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type

2011-04-12 Thread Andrew Arnott
Thanks, Skylar. Eran's and your comments do alleviate my concerns somewhat. In reviewing the security considerations text, which I hadn't seen this morning when writing my earlier email, I feel *much* better. My favorite part is this: Authorization servers MUST NOT automatically process (withou

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type

2011-04-12 Thread Skylar Woodward
Just as a response to Andrew, the concern is valid, and providers should be educated to warn users about the possibility of a forged identity. This risk for forgery is actually possible for clients with and without secrets. Anyone can spoof either type if the client ID is known, thus showing

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type

2011-04-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Hopefully by the end of the week. My farm took all my free time this weekend. EHL From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:54 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Andrew Arnott; OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for i

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type

2011-04-12 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
The proposed text already does (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lodderstedt-oauth-securityconsiderations-02). When will you post the new revision of the core draft that includes the proposed text? regards, Torsten. Am 12.04.2011 17:50, schrieb Eran Hammer-Lahav: It should include a sectio

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type

2011-04-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
It should include a section on phishing-like attacks. EHL From: Andrew Arnott [mailto:andrewarn...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:30 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type Thanks, Eran. Will the se

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type

2011-04-12 Thread Andrew Arnott
Thanks, Eran. Will the security considerations section discuss this and recommend that auth servers warn the users of the potential phishing attack? -- Andrew Arnott "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it." - S. G. Tallentyre We're hiring!

Re: [OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type

2011-04-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I don't think there is much we can do either way to prevent these phishing-like attacks with or without the client identifier. The key to security here is the ability of the end-user to keep track of how it got there, and based on that decide if they want to grant access to whoever sent them to

[OAUTH-WG] client authentication for implicit grant type

2011-04-12 Thread Andrew Arnott
I brought this concern up about a year ago. Now reviewing the latest drafts, I still have a concern with it. It is regarding the use of client_id without a password. I agree with section 3, as included below: Section 3. Client Authentication The client identifier is not a secret, it is exposed