[OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
I messed up the conference bridge time; here is the corrected version but the details are actually the same. Meeting Number: 702 442 101 Meeting Password: oauth --- To join the online meeting ---

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authz Header + client_id in message body

2013-08-22 Thread Brian Campbell
I so believe that was the intent and what it probably should have said. So maybe errata makes sense? On Aug 17, 2013 12:15 PM, "Torsten Lodderstedt" wrote: > Hi all, > > would it make sense to issue an errata and add a "public" to the sentence > as follows? > > "A _public_ client MAY use the "cl

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authz Header + client_id in message body

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Richer
+1, I believe that was the intent of the edit. -- Justin On 08/22/2013 01:33 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: I so believe that was the intent and what it probably should have said. So maybe errata makes sense? On Aug 17, 2013 12:15 PM, "Torsten Lodderstedt" mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net>> wrot

[OAUTH-WG] Text for an additional registration life cycle

2013-08-22 Thread John Bradley
A additional life cycle showing how the server can avoid storing state for the client in the current spec. new use case jwt.xml Description: XML document B.2. Stateless Open Registration using JWTOpen registration, with no authorization required on the client registration endpoint. The registratio

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Anthony Nadalin
Phil, this just brings me back to the question, "why are we doing this in OAuth" ? Configuration endpoint (nothing to do with OAuth), Registration Endpoint (too complicated, goes beyond the bounds of OAuth), why not just a stateless and state full registration message and that's it? -Origin

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Richer
Tony, I look forward to seeing the concrete specification and implementation of your idea. -- Justin On 08/22/2013 03:39 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote: Phil, this just brings me back to the question, "why are we doing this in OAuth" ? Configuration endpoint (nothing to do with OAuth), Registrati

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Richer
Phil, thanks for writing this down. I think that part of the confusion in this conversation may come from the nature of items such as the client id, client secret, and even the registration access token. In many instances, these are simply random values that the server generates and stores for

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Phil Hunt
I don't think open vs close has a big impact on design. The issue of state full vs stateless are foundational. So we need to talk about when and why state full registration is needed. Phil On 2013-08-22, at 12:39, Anthony Nadalin wrote: > Phil, this just brings me back to the question, "why

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Phil Hunt
Agreed. The problem for dyn reg is most params are optional and passed at reg time. I think this also represents huge complexity to client app developers since each sp may be different. Move bulk of info to statement simplifies the registration and encourages uniformity. Phil On 2013-08-22,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Justin Richer
But it also assumes, in many cases, a pre-registration step. I think you might be simplifying for the case of one piece of software with the same parameters talking to the same server many times. In some sense, it doesn't matter to a client developer whether they have to send their display name

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Phil Hunt
TLS doesn't define how servers obtain certificates. It just assumes they are installed. The same thing is happening here. I'm not sure why this is objectionable. It is simply a broader model of your proprietary (meaning specific) solution for BB+. Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Authz Header + client_id in message body

2013-08-22 Thread John Bradley
Yes the was the intent. On 2013-08-22, at 1:38 PM, Justin Richer wrote: > +1, I believe that was the intent of the edit. > > -- Justin > > On 08/22/2013 01:33 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: >> I so believe that was the intent and what it probably should have said. So >> maybe errata makes sense?

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Richer, Justin P.
Phil, I'm not objecting to it! I never have been! I've been saying all along it's a proper extension to the base dynamic registration spec because it defines optional functionality in addition to said base spec. Why do you object to it being an extension? -- Justin On Aug 22, 2013, at 4:43 PM

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread John Bradley
True however this is more like a client cert and that didn't take off because of distribution and maintenance issues. On 2013-08-22, at 4:43 PM, Phil Hunt wrote: > TLS doesn't define how servers obtain certificates. It just assumes they are > installed. The same thing is happening here. > >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Dynamic Client Registration Conference Call: Thu 22 Aug, 2pm PDT: Conference Bridge Details -- Correction!

2013-08-22 Thread Phil Hunt
Specifics? Phil @independentid www.independentid.com phil.h...@oracle.com On 2013-08-22, at 1:52 PM, John Bradley wrote: > True however this is more like a client cert and that didn't take off because > of distribution and maintenance issues. > > On 2013-08-22, at 4:43 PM, Phil Hunt

[OAUTH-WG] RFC 7009 on OAuth 2.0 Token Revocation

2013-08-22 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 7009 Title: OAuth 2.0 Token Revocation Author: T. Lodderstedt, Ed., S. Dronia, M. Scurtescu Status: Standards Track Stream: IETF

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Protocol Action: 'OAuth 2.0 Token Revocation' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-oauth-revocation-11.txt)

2013-08-22 Thread Derek Atkins
... Which was just published as RFC 7009. Great work, everyone! -derek Hannes Tschofenig writes: > A big "Thank you" goes to Torsten for working hard to get the document > through the IETF process. > > On Jul 20, 2013, at 4:43 AM, The IESG wrote: > >> The IESG has approved the following docum

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Current Progress in use case document?

2013-08-22 Thread Derek Atkins
Sorry, I meant to ping about this document but I've been inundated with "Real Work(TM)" since Berlin. Alas, the document expired, which means we need a new version submitted before we can send it through the process. Can one get submitted, please? Thanks, -derek Igor Faynberg writes: > Zhou,