Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-17 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 16.06.2010 00:35, schrieb Brian Eaton: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: Wouldn't it be an alternative solution, if the AS first tries to authenticate the user using SPNEGO within the Web Server flow? This should work in the inhouse scenario. If it fails, it c

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-15 Thread Brian Eaton
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > Wouldn't it be an alternative solution, if the AS first tries to > authenticate the user using SPNEGO within the Web Server flow? This should > work in the inhouse scenario. If it fails, it can fall back to > username/password auth.. T

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-15 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Wouldn't it be an alternative solution, if the AS first tries to authenticate the user using SPNEGO within the Web Server flow? This should work in the inhouse scenario. If it fails, it can fall back to username/password auth.. Thoughts? regards, Torsten. Am 15.06.2010 um 17:19 schrieb

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-15 Thread George Fletcher
To me, the use case described is more similar to the "Username and Password flow" but where the user credentials are NOT username & password. Should we have two "user credential" flows? (1) Username and Password and (2) assertion/token? I can see it being useful to have a "user credential" flow

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-15 Thread Andrew Arnott
Hi Dick, Responses inline. On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Dick Hardt wrote: > Why can the client app access the AS to get an access token but not the > corporate network to get a new assertion? > The corporate network where the AD lives is behind a firewall, whereas the AS is on the public I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-15 Thread Dick Hardt
> EHL > > > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Arnott > Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:32 PM > To: OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) > Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in > response > >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-15 Thread Dick Hardt
Why can the client app access the AS to get an access token but not the corporate network to get a new assertion? How does the client app get the assertion to begin with? How did delegation from the user happen? Would you elaborate more on the use case so that we can understand the full trust

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-15 Thread Andrew Arnott
[mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf > Of *Andrew Arnott > *Sent:* Monday, June 14, 2010 8:32 PM > *To:* OAuth WG (oauth@ietf.org) > *Subject:* [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in > response > > > > For an application I'm building, th

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-15 Thread Andrew Arnott
Well it's easy enough for me to just make up a profile that follows rules I set. But since I don't think this need will be unique to myself, would you like me to write up a spec somewhere? (I've never written an IETF spec before) -- Andrew Arnott "I [may] not agree with what you have to say, but I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-14 Thread Dick Hardt
+1 On 2010-06-14, at 9:02 PM, Brian Eaton wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Andrew Arnott wrote: >> For an application I'm building, the installed client app will have >> intermittent windows of time where it can obtain a (non-OAuth) assertion for >> user identity. During this time, it

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-14 Thread Brian Eaton
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Andrew Arnott wrote: > For an application I'm building, the installed client app will have > intermittent windows of time where it can obtain a (non-OAuth) assertion for > user identity.  During this time, it seems appropriate for it to use the > assertion flow to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response For an application I'm building, the installed client app will have intermittent windows of time where it can obtain a (non-OAuth) assertion for user identity. During this time, it seems appropriate for it to use the assertion flo

[OAUTH-WG] Assertion flow: please add optional refresh_token in response

2010-06-14 Thread Andrew Arnott
For an application I'm building, the installed client app will have intermittent windows of time where it can obtain a (non-OAuth) assertion for user identity. During this time, it seems appropriate for it to use the assertion flow to obtain an OAuth authorization so that it can impersonate the us