Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-20 Thread Dick Hardt
Minimizing market confusing is an objective of the OAuth 2.1 draft. Given you are one of the people explaining to the market, your suggestions are of interest and welcome! On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 6:03 AM Jared Jennings wrote: > Perfect, and really good info! but most people, if we need to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-18 Thread Jared Jennings
Perfect, and really good info! but most people, if we need to worry about the audience, are not going to put that together. They just read "OAUTH". It's not a deal breaker, but if the document is going to be easy to read and keep confusion to a minimum... then it would be nice if it addressed

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-18 Thread Justin Richer
OpenID Connect is based on OAuth 2.0, not on OAuth 2.1. Therefore, it would not be affected at all, whether through the hybrid or implicit flows. If OIDC pushes a revision to OAuth 2.1, then it would be bound by the features of OAuth 2.1 and would need to contend with that. But until that

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-18 Thread Jared Jennings
I agree, but would add that as long as it says "this is being drop", but does not impact "that", then the reader can understand context. "This does not change support for implicit response that OpenID Connect (OIDC) makes use of". my two cents. -Jared Skype:jaredljennings Signal:+1 816.730.9540

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-12 Thread Vittorio Bertocci
Sorry for the delay here. >From the formal perspective, Torsten's language works for me as well. Thanks for taking the feedback into account. I still worry that without an explicit reference to OIDC implicit+form_post, I will have the conversation "but can we still do this in OIDC now that

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-07 Thread Brian Campbell
Sorry, was replying i. my phone on the weekend and trying to keep it quick. I meant that I thought Torsten's suggestion was good. On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 4:25 PM Dick Hardt wrote: > Would you clarify what text works Brian? > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 3:24 PM Brian Campbell > wrote: > >> Yeah, that

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-07 Thread Dick Hardt
Would you clarify what text works Brian? On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 3:24 PM Brian Campbell wrote: > Yeah, that works for me. > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 9:37 AM Dick Hardt wrote: > >> Brian: does that meet your requirements? >> >> If not, how about if we refer to OIDC as an example extension without

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-07 Thread Brian Campbell
Yeah, that works for me. On Sat, Mar 7, 2020, 9:37 AM Dick Hardt wrote: > Brian: does that meet your requirements? > > If not, how about if we refer to OIDC as an example extension without > saying it is implicit? > ᐧ > > On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 8:29 AM Torsten Lodderstedt < >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-07 Thread Dick Hardt
Brian: does that meet your requirements? If not, how about if we refer to OIDC as an example extension without saying it is implicit? ᐧ On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 8:29 AM Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > I think keeping the response type as extension point and not mentioning > implicit at all is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-07 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
I think keeping the response type as extension point and not mentioning implicit at all is sufficient to support Brian’s objective. > Am 07.03.2020 um 17:06 schrieb Dick Hardt : > >  > How about if we add in a nonnormative reference to OIDC as an explicit > example of an extension: > > "For

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-07 Thread Dick Hardt
How about if we add in a nonnormative reference to OIDC as an explicit example of an extension: "For example, OIDC defines an implicit grant with additional security features." or similar language ᐧ On Sat, Mar 7, 2020 at 5:27 AM Brian Campbell wrote: > The name implicit grant is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-03-07 Thread Brian Campbell
The name implicit grant is unfortunately somewhat misleading/confusing but, for the case at hand, the extension mechanism isn't grant type so much as response type and even response mode. The perspective shared during the office hours call was, paraphrasing as best I can, that there are

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-02-28 Thread Dick Hardt
I'm looking to close out this topic. I heard that Brian and Vittorio shared some points of view in the office hours, and wanted to confirm: + Remove implicit flow from OAuth 2.1 and continue to highlight that grant types are an extension mechanism. For example, if OpenID Connect were to be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-02-18 Thread Dominick Baier
No - please get rid of it. ——— Dominick Baier On 18. February 2020 at 21:32:31, Dick Hardt (dick.ha...@gmail.com) wrote: Hey List (I'm using the OAuth 2.1 name as a placeholder for the doc that Aaron, Torsten, and I are working on) Given the points Aaron brought up in

[OAUTH-WG] OAuth 2.1 - drop implicit flow?

2020-02-18 Thread Dick Hardt
Hey List (I'm using the OAuth 2.1 name as a placeholder for the doc that Aaron, Torsten, and I are working on) Given the points Aaron brought up in https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/oauth/hXEfLXgEqrUQVi7Qy8X_279DCNU Does anyone have concerns with dropping the implicit flow from the OAuth