[OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-15 Thread Brian Campbell
I'm gong to join the growing list of people attaching a potential I-D to an email due to he cut off time for the I-D submissions. Attached is a draft that aims to tightly define the particular format of a SAML 2.0 bearer assertion in requesting an access token using the assertion grant_type. I'v

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-18 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Hi Brian, thank you for taking the effort to write this I-D. I have the following remarks: Why do you prescribe to include the token endpoint URL into the SubjectConfirmationData and similar data also in the AudienceRestriction? I would expect such data in the AudienceRestriction only. Why

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-18 Thread Brian Campbell
Torsten, Thanks for taking the time to review and comment. I've tried to address your questions inline below (though in some cases only raising more questions). On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > Why do you prescribe to include the token endpoint URL into the > Subject

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-22 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 19.07.2010 06:34, schrieb Brian Campbell: Torsten, Thanks for taking the time to review and comment. I've tried to address your questions inline below (though in some cases only raising more questions). On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: Why do you prescribe t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-27 Thread Brian Campbell
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > Sounds like you defining a profile of the OAuth assertion flow for using > SAML assertions complying to the SAML "Web Browser SSO Profile". I think you > should state that somewhere. There will probably be other assertion flow > profile

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-27 Thread Chuck Mortimore
Yes - this is intended to be a simplified parallel to web sso profile. We also intend to ship a straight adaptation of websso, as do others I believe For both of these, We intend to enforce one time use; I suspect that type of state maintenance will get argued against by those running the large

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-27 Thread Brian Campbell
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Chuck Mortimore wrote: > For both of these, We intend to enforce one time use; I suspect that type of > state maintenance will get argued against by those running the large > scale consumer systems...it's manageable for us given how our Multi-tenancy > is setup.

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-27 Thread Brian Eaton
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Brian Campbell wrote: > There seem to be two potential arguments against it - the burden of > tracking the state and the potential that it's unnecessarily > restrictive.  I don't personally see either as being a major issue but > would like to hear from folks if t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-27 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 28.07.2010 um 01:40 schrieb Brian Eaton : > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Brian Campbell > wrote: >> There seem to be two potential arguments against it - the burden of >> tracking the state and the potential that it's unnecessarily >> restrictive. I don't personally see either as being a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-28 Thread Igor Faynberg
+1 on MAY; (+0.3 on SHOULD). Igor Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: Am 28.07.2010 um 01:40 schrieb Brian Eaton : On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:56 AM, Brian Campbell wrote: There seem to be two potential arguments against it - the burden of tracking the state and the potential that it's unnec

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-07-28 Thread Brian Campbell
MAY it is. Thanks On Jul 28, 2010 4:06 AM, "Igor Faynberg" wrote: +1 on MAY; (+0.3 on SHOULD). Igor Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > > Am 28.07.2010 um 01:40 schrieb Brian Eaton : > >... ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mail

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-02 Thread Anthony Nadalin
: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Campbell Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:50 PM To: oauth Subject: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft I'm gong to join the growing list of people attaching a potential I-D to an email due

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-02 Thread Brian Campbell
file for that > or add it as an option here. > > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Brian Campbell > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:50 PM > To: oauth > Subject: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-02 Thread Anthony Nadalin
have a separate profile for that > or add it as an option here. > > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Brian Campbell > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 1:50 PM > To: oauth > Subject: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-03 Thread Brian Campbell
at the signature verification is out of scope. > > -Original Message- > From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Brian Campbell > Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:53 PM > To: oauth > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile f

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-03 Thread Anthony Nadalin
[mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:12 PM To: Anthony Nadalin Cc: oauth Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft Seems like a much more complicated scenario. Allowing more than one assertion, off the top of my head, would necessitate

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-03 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
mon > these days. > > -Original Message- > From: Brian Campbell [mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 1:12 PM > To: Anthony Nadalin > Cc: oauth > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 > draft > >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-04 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
t belongs in its own spec. > > EHL > >> -Original Message- >> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of Anthony Nadalin >> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 3:29 PM >> To: Brian Campbell >> Cc: oauth >> Subj

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-04 Thread Prateek Mishra
gnature verification is out of scope. -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Campbell Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:53 PM To: oauth Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft I guess I'd nee

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-04 Thread Paul Madsen
aim, we still expect that the signature verification is out of scope. -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Campbell Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:53 PM To: oauth Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-04 Thread Brian Campbell
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:08 AM, Prateek Mishra wrote: > Brian, > > it would probably help to clarify that you are proposing this as a > additional or follow-on step to SSO implemented via the SAML web browser > profiles (right?). Actually no. The similarities to SSO are mostly in the assertion f

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-04 Thread Chuck Mortimore
cmort From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Prateek Mishra [prateek.mis...@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:08 AM To: Brian Campbell Cc: oauth Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft Brian, it

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-04 Thread Brian Campbell
[oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Prateek > Mishra [prateek.mis...@oracle.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 8:08 AM > To: Brian Campbell > Cc: oauth > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft > > Brian, > > it would prob

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-04 Thread Prateek Mishra
m, we still expect that the signature verification is out of scope. -Original Message- From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Brian Campbell Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:53 PM To: oauth Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-05 Thread Brian Campbell
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Prateek Mishra wrote: > Thanks for the clarification (Paul, Chuck and Brian), re-reading the most > recent draft makes the use-case pretty clear, not sure how I came up with my > own personal use-case in this instance (not enough coffee probably...) If you think th

Re: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft

2010-08-10 Thread Igor Faynberg
: [OAUTH-WG] SAML 2.0 Bearer Assertion Profile for OAuth 2.0 draft This is a use case we are seeing from the various government agencies (UK, USA, BC), I agree it add complexity but with having to satisfy several claims (i.e. over 21 and being a resident of sate) this seems to be pretty common these