Re: [ob] ANTM INFO PLS

2009-08-11 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Memang BISA-BISAnya BANDAR. Be careful small trader/investor.!!! Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com

Re: [ob] OB Sepi ..???....Senior pada kemana yah..????

2009-08-11 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Koreksi saham-saham BG hari ini apa ada hubungan dengan bakal digelarnya RAPIM Golkar? Atau hanya karena PT semata? Anyone knows? Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.]

Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI

2009-08-11 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dear Pak Jhony, Welcome to OB Milis. Ulasan Anda menarik dan bermakna serta mengupas perspektif lain dari Dunia Pasar Modal Indonesia. Keep posting Pak. Thanks. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also

Re: [ob] Kapitalisasi BEI

2009-08-11 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Jika saya boleh urun-rembug, saya kurang sepakat bahwa besarnya kapitalisasi Pasar Modal bisa menjadi salah satu indikator pertumbuhan ekonomi nasional. Secara sederhana dapat dilihat ketika terjadi crash pasar modal mulai Q4, 2008 - Q1, 2009, pertumbuhan GDP Indonesia masih positif padahal

Re: [ob] El: LOL

2009-08-10 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
What does it mean Jend. Arto? Can you and have you turned it (I Love Indonesia) into reality? Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From:

[ob] No Point in being dejected and glum. (A REFLECTION)

2009-08-10 Terurut Topik jacob oen
The cause of happiness is rare, And many are the seeds of suffering! But if I have no pain, I’ll never long for freedom; Therefore my mind, be steadfast! - Shantideva So come what may, I’ll not upset My cheerful happiness of mind. Dejection never brings me what I want; My virtue will be warped

Re: [ob] Re: Asia is bullish and invincible (my decoupling theory is right)

2009-08-10 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Just BOW. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: ichingprediction iching_predict...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:08:37 To:

Re: [ob] MYOR...

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau mau barang murah BLTA is strongly advised. Karena PER-nya bahkan masih 1. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: M Herman

Re: [ob] How to Improve Your Trading Skill

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah jenaka juga pak Anru. Mungkin bukan cuma value seeker, tapi juga pride seeker. Hehehe.(Just kidding). Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original

Re: [ob] MYOR...

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: lkm jkt lkm...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 19:59:01 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] MYOR... Pak . Jacob Bisa minta lap keu dari BLTA untuk Q2 2009 Lukman 2009/8/9 Jacob Oen oenja

Re: [ob] Missing the Market Low

2009-08-09 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Very nice video. The Bull Market has started and we're just sitting in the side line (kata Hitler)hehehe... From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:23:06 AM Subject: [ob] Missing the

Re: HADIAH HUT TERBESAR KEMERDEKAAN RI Re: [ob] NOORDIN M TOP TEWAS ............ SENIN IHSG NGEBUTTTTTTTTTTTTT

2009-08-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dengan tertangkapnya (baca tewas) Gembong Terorist (the most wanted one) maka kepercayaan investor asing akan semakin meningkat apalagi Indonesia telah mampu menjalankan proses demokrasi (pemilu) secara dewasa, lancar dan Aman, diperkuat lagi dengan faktor adanya tanda2 pemulihan ekonomi Dunia,

Re: [ob] Re: Bos, TP Bumi berapa?

2009-08-08 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sounds very interesting!!! Kalau mungkin besok mau beli 10 lot Bumi di 3000, dan exercise menjelang IMLEK di 6000. Lumayan buat dana cadangan ANGPAO bagi Ponakan. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also

Re: [ob] Art, I want more

2009-08-07 Terurut Topik jacob oen
OB itu Obrolan Bandar atau Obrolan Bijak sih??? Yang jadi bintang di OB hari ini...Elaine dan Artomoro. Yang lain jadi supporter.   From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 5:22:06 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [ob] Art, I want more

2009-08-07 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
OB itu Obrolan Bandar atau Obrolan Bijak sih??? Yang jadi bintang di OB hari ini...Elaine dan Artomoro. Yang lain jadi supporter. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.]

Re: [ob] Ke gocek lagi cuy

2009-08-07 Terurut Topik jacob oen
“The only area of the world economy I know where the fundamentals are getting better is commodities,” investor Jim Rogers, chairman of Singapore-based Rogers Holdings, said in an interview. Commodity assets under management climbed by the second-largest amount in the second quarter, gaining $34

Re: [ob] Re: [Ask I Ching] Bgm BNBR Kamis 06 Aug 09?

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
No problem.still good, very good indeed.!!! Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: ichingprediction wimanto...@yahoo.com Date:

Re: [ob] VIVA Master-Master OB...!

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah Bu Fifi kelihatan sangat bersemangat dan berbunga-bunga hari ini. Memimjan ungkapan Mbah Surip.BEI hari iniEnak toh, Mantap toh, Asyik tohhahaha...hahaha Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will

Re: Bls: [ob] Re: ENRG---- Prof JT

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sebetulnya ngga ada apa yang disebut nama baik. Yang ada adalah Perbuatan BAIK atau Perbuatan Buruk jadi nama tidak bisa dicemarkan karena netralhehehe Ane becanda Jenderal. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for

Re: Bls: [ob] Elaine malu sekali

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Elaine malu sekalior.Elaine sekali malu? Up or down, and right or wrongit's always balance, harmony and serene. All as a matter of time, nothing more and nothing less. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody,

Re: [ob] EL, A9 :: Ini kode ya?

2009-08-06 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Very good pak DE, Ketika kita keluar dari diri kita, semua menjadi KEUNTUNGAN, semua menjadi KEINDAHAN dan semua menjadi penuh KEDAMAIAN. Konsep diri yang statis, kaku dan artificial menjadi penghambat atas apa yang ditawarkan oleh ALAM SEMESTA. LOL (Lots of love) and I LOVE YOU FULL (kata

Re: [ob] BUBBLE IHSG akan pecah ?

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mungkin hari ini banyak saham akan turun tetapi BUMI ditutup + sesuai prediksi ICHING. Hehehe Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message-

Re: [ob] Warning untuk member baru

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
OR FAR MORE..I AM WACTHING YOU GUYS. Hehehe. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 5 Aug

[ob] BUMI Raup US$ 260 Juta dari Obligasi Enercoal

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik jacob oen
BUMI Raup US$ 260 Juta dari Obligasi Enercoal JAKARTA. Enercoal Pte Ltd, anak usaha PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) akhirnya merilis obligasi konversi atau convertible bond US$ 375 juta. Obligasi yang mendapat penjaminan penuh BUMI itu terbit dengan bunga 9,25% per tahun. Obligasi konversi itu

Re: [ob] Regional Ijo , Siapa yg kemaren Nyopet ??

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Yes Pak Hans. Di Asia selain Japan ada China, ada India dan Indonesia. China adalah penyokong utama US dalam program bailout-nya. China membeli sekitar USD.800 Bio US T-bill.  From: Hans Kwee hanskwe...@gmail.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [ob] ADRO digoreng

2009-08-05 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mbah, Bukankah ADRO layak digoreng? Merujuk analysis dari CLSA, Fundamental ADRO sangat baik, mereka merekomendasikan BUY. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.]

Re: Bls: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Not Bad. Tabungan buat OB Milis. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. -Original Message- From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 14:33:34 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: Bls: [ob] BNBR - Get Ready

Re: [ob] BD direcokin terus ama Papah Lauren

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Sempat liat berita di Metro tv bahwa Mbah SURIP menghabiskan 5-6 bungkus rokok kretek setiap hari dan jarang minum air putih, lebih sering kopi. Tidak heran kalau penjualan rokok di Indonesia terus meningkat dan Asing begitu berminat untuk membeli perusahaan rokok di negeri ini. Sent from my

Re: [ob] BD direcokin terus ama Papah Lauren

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
.. -Original Message- From: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 11:08:30 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] BD direcokin terus ama Papah Lauren Sempat liat berita di Metro tv bahwa Mbah SURIP menghabiskan 5-6 bungkus rokok kretek setiap hari dan jarang minum

Re: [ob] DEWA - AKUMULASI BERAT : Gimana bedain akumulasi vs distribusi

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak boyz, Kalau Jend. Arto siapa yang bisa ngalahin? Tentu org yang ngga butuh duit dan idealist!!! Tapi zaman sekarang mana ada yg ngga butuh duit? Seorang Mistikus kalee. Hehehe... Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Kuat XL.

Re: [ob] ELSA: Incar kontrak US$ 146 JT

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
ELSA BUSINESS LOOKS VERY PROMISING. IT's TIME TO INVEST. Sent from my XL BlackBerry®. [If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path.] -Original Message- From: Data Saham datasaha...@yahoo.com

Re: [ob] ELSA: Incar kontrak US$ 146 JT

2009-08-04 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
2009 02:08:31 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] ELSA: Incar kontrak US$ 146 JT ELSA kebanyakan berita bagus, tapi harga gak naik2. Keknya mau dijual aja nih barang ane. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote: ELSA BUSINESS LOOKS VERY PROMISING

Re: [ob] Re: Alreat : Focus on STOCK

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Setelah CPIN mungkin ELSA, karena PER_nya masih di bawah 3, Net Profit 465B dan PBV 1.3. But back to Mr. BANDAR Plan, apakah mau dinaikin, dibiarkan sideways atau mau diturunkan. Just an opinion. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL.

Re: [ob] obrolan-bandar-ow...@yahoogroups.com

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah pak/ibu kucing_liar1 cukup creative juga ya! Bisa nyaingin pak DE. Anda potensial jadi BANDAR. Hehehe Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. -Original Message- From: kucing_liar1 kucing_li...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009

Re: Club SEJATI....[ob] Re: Email yg ini mbah..

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mbah, I have no idea tentang PETOK itu jadi sy ignore, karena mungkin pak Hmin jarang2 kasih kode. Mungkin kalau sy sudah lama jadi OB member mungkin bisa memaknai itu sebagai kode. Dan sy setuju secara Fundamental CPIN bagus. Beberapa minggu lalu sy sempat punya posisi di CPIN tetapi keburu

Re: [ob] inco

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak t_bumi, Boleh disikapi secara terbalik? Jika Anda mengatakan bahwa sebuah saham akan naik justru perlu dimaknai bahwa saham tersebut akan turun dalam waktu dekat? Hehehe Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. -Original

Re: Club SEJATI....[ob] Re: Email yg ini mbah..

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik jacob oen
kaliber internasional menyempatkan dirinya masuk ke milis ini. sebenarnya yang lebih besar power of money nya dari EL itu banyak di milis ini. jadi kalo gak jelas jangan sembarangan belanja ya pak jacob. hehehe. regards, A9 gak lagi petok petok! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Jacob

Re: Club SEJATI....[ob] Re: Email yg ini mbah..

2009-08-03 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
konteks cukup besar lah...ngak cuma jutaan perak saja). Hokie te it? :-) 2009/8/3 jacob oen oenja...@yahoo.com Pak Arto, Terima kasih atas reply-nya. Sebetulnya tidak perlu minta maaf karena tidak ada yang salah dari posting-nya pak Arto. (Tetapi karena tradisi Kesantunan yang dimiliki pak

[ob] To Mbah: KENAPA BUMI (BG) begitu diminati?

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dear Mbah, Di bawah ini Pertanyaan dari seorang amatir di stock market: 1. Kenapa BUMI begitu diminati sehingga menjadi saham yang paling besar nilai transaksinya? Apakah karena floating share terbesar? Apakah karena most volatile sehingga potensi Gain (loss) juga begitu besar? Atau apakah

Re: [ob] yakin minggu ini market masih naik...?

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
YAKIN? Any clue?...BHSH? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. ILLUSION NEVER SLEEPS, IF WE NEVER AWAKE. TRUTH NEVER SLEEPS, EVEN IF WE ARE ASLEEP. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009

Re: [ob] BUMI AKAN KE 5000

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak T_Bumi, Just a simple question, Jika BUMI bisa tembus 5000 sampai akhir tahun berapa kira-kira harga emiten Batubara lain seperti : PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. ILLUSION NEVER SLEEPS, IF WE NEVER

Re: Bls: [ob] JSMR - Cermati

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
But PER sdh 15, IS IT STILL WORTHY TO COLLECT? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL. ILLUSION NEVER SLEEPS, IF WE NEVER AWAKE. TRUTH NEVER SLEEPS, EVEN IF WE ARE ASLEEP. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id

Re: [ob] BUMI AKAN KE 5000

2009-08-02 Terurut Topik jacob oen
kepercayaan Investor akan praktek GCG itu dan masa depan BUMI? Thanks.  From: t_bumi t_b...@yahoo.co.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 9:06:03 AM Subject: Re: [ob] BUMI AKAN KE 5000   --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Jacob Oen

Re: [ob] tools sederhana

2009-08-01 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau boleh ane kasih comment, hanya Data Sahamku dan Bandar Bola yang berani secara jelas merekomendasikan Sell atau Buy kalau yang lain CMIIAW serba tersamar + Discl ON lagi. Bisa Anda bayangkan berapa banyak email yg beredar di Milis Tercinta ini. Kalau bukan yg benar2 obvious, lucu dan

Re: [ob] Bandarmologi: Apakah segala galanya DIATUR ?

2009-08-01 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Mbah, TERNYATA di stock market lebih khusus lagi di BEI penuh dengan trick-trick yang mencengankan dan SHOW of FORCES dari para Bandar. Jadi teringat statement EL ...if you think that stock market is friendly, you are wrong. Mudah2an Algo trading kreasinya pak DE bisa membantu Trader kecil

[ob] Euro-Zone Prices Sink as Jobless Rate Ticks Up

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Articles from The Wall Street Journal.   By JOE PARKINSON and NICHOLAS WINNING JULY 31, 2009, 11:04 A.M. ET   LONDON-- The annual contraction in euro-zone consumer prices accelerated in July, increasing the risk of deflation as the 16-country region works to emerge from recession. Meanwhile, the

Re: [ob] Re: Ciputra aneh .....Research pak Yuga.....

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Memang cukup memprihatinkan LK beberapa Emiten BEI. Bahkan ada yang hingga sekarang LK Q1 belum juga dipublish. Kalau ngga salah CTRP termasuk salah satu emiten bersama INCO yang tidak membagi Dividen. Jadi selama ini investor hanya digerakan berdasarkan sentiment dan data Macro

Re: [ob] 31 july.

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Namanya Humankind hampir jarang benar2 bisa objective. Karena proses progamming and conditioning yang dialami sejak kecil hingga dewasa baik dari lingkungan keluarga, pergaulan, kerja dan society (both domestic and international) dan juga the nature of human being itself. Orientasi pribadi

Re: [ob] [oot] KIAMAT 2012

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ini namanya DELUSION, atau contaminated thought,,they've been occupied by the very ordinary things outside themselves. So just go back to ourselves, try to balance the lives of ours with the UNIVERSE, with the reality and with the OTHERS. THERE IS NO END ONLY A TRANSFORMATION.

Re: [ob] Re: Ciputra aneh .....Research pak Yuga.....

2009-07-31 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
DIANDALKAN oleh investor publik untuk JANGKA PANJANG. Management yg mewakili dan bekerja untuk kepentingan investor publik http://www.investdata.net/QWINCO.TXT http://www.investdata.net/QWSGRO.TXT --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jacob oen oenja...@... wrote: Memang cukup memprihatinkan LK

[ob] Wijaya Karya Incar Pasar Properti

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Wijaya Karya Incar Pasar Properti Kamis, 30 Juli 2009 | 03:51 WIBJakarta, Kompas - Badan usaha milik negara PT Wijaya Karya Tbk mengincar pasar properti swasta pada semester II-2009. Wika menargetkan Rp 100 miliar-Rp 150 miliar dari pasar properti yang ditawarkan swasta pada semester mendatang.

Re: [ob] Attention Please

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Pak JT, Untung banyak sih nggak! Cuman balik modal yg sudah dikeluarkan sejak October 2007 tanpa memperhitungkan bunga. (karena nyangkut di Bumi dan nggak berani C/L karena baru join OB akhir April). Btw, I've bought 100 lot BNBR at 100, will donate it to OB milis 20 lot by end of this year.

Re: [ob] Attention Please

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
- From: Heru Susanto h3ru.sus4...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:54:11 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] Attention Please Bos kalo BNBR nya jadi 120 minggu depan boleh minta 10 perak aja nggak? hue he he. GO BNBR 120... On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jacob Oen

Re: [ob] Google finance tidak efektif

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Hari ini mungkin bisa disebut sebagai ANOMALY Day. Hanya Big BOZZ yang tau jawabannya. Isn't it? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: Dean

Re: [ob] Mbah, sebenernya apa si yang mentrigger kenaikan hari ini?

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ya mungkin benar juga bahwa kenaikan ini untuk mendapatkan kepercayaan investor karena kalau ngga salah mereka (BG) mau menerbitkan OBLIGASI. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion.

Re: [ob] Please deh, jangan lebay..

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
It's now the turn for younger generation to lead a political party. the reason is very simple: Energetic, Committed, Adaptable and Capable person as well as relatively free from vested interest is a best choice.    From: Henry Liem hsantos...@gmail.com To:

Re: [ob] BUMI 3000 was Please deh, jangan lebay..

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ane NGGAK ikut2an lagi. Biarkan Jend.Arto and his followers ENJOY the game to 3000. It's probably full of ENGINEERING. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original

Re: [ob] bumi 3000 done...!!!

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
PLEASE GO AHEAD and ENJOY the GAME. FOR ME THE SHOW HAS BEEN TOO RUDE. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id

Re: [ob] bumi 3000 done...!!!

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Apparently ICHING has been NOT OBJECTIVE anymore. Be careful, don't be too enthusiast. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: ichingprediction

Re: [ob] Re: Ahli Corporate Action tolong donk jelasin Convertible Bond...

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
I absolutely AGREE. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: cipto_jh cipto...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:34:38 To:

[ob] Don’t Invest In The Stock Market

2009-07-30 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Bukan BOZZ aja bisa Contrarian .below opinion is against to what many people belief that Stock Market can make them RICH.      Today’s Devil’s Advocate post is going to hit at the very heart of the financial sector. The stock market is one of the cornerstones of the American economy and one

Re: Bls: [ob] ML: BUY BUMI, TP 4000

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Kalau ngga salah ML juga pernah mengeluarkan analisa ttg INDF sekitar Feb, 2009 dgn TP 900, tetapi sekarang INDF sudah 2ribu. Dan juga banyak analyst dari sekuritas lain yg memberi TP yang sangat PESIMISTIC bagi TINS, ANTM dan INCO. Ternyata hampir semua kurang tepat. Dan yang benar, tepat

Re: [ob] TERMINAL 2325 ???

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Baru sempat baca e-mail di bawah ini. Ane jadi tertawa..wkwkwkwkwsoalnya ada nama kucing liar segala. Emang warungnya Mbah OK punya!!! (minjam istilah jend.Arto)...full of fun.full of stock market knowledge, and full of Bandarmology. hehehe  From:

Re: [ob] Fwd: (BN) Oil Will Reach $85 a Barrel, Decline Is Temporary,

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Hukum Penawaran dan Permintaan (the law of supply and demand) will be a key driver in determining the price. Karena Minyak Bumi bukan merupakan energy terbarukan maka stocknya pasti akan menyusut dan permintaan akan terus bertambah sejalan dengan pertumbuhan penduduk Dunia (kecuali jika Air

Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..? deal...! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jacob Oen oenja...@... wrote: Jend. Arto, ENTE bikin offer di 2325 dulu baru ane bantu hajar kanan, OK? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry

[ob] BUMI-unbelievable

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 21:06:01 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..? entar kaya kemaren lagi ane di ledekin. deal or no deal ane yakin ke 3000. DISCLAIMER ON --- Pada Kam, 30/7/09, Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com menulis: Dari: Jacob Oen oenja

Re: Bls: [ob] Re: Setan Gundul Beraksi Lagi

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik jacob oen
wah ini kayaknya bukan statement dari Jend. Arto yang asli (yang bakal masuk majalah FORBES ???). hehehe.. From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 11:47:26 AM Subject: Bls: [ob] Re: Setan

Re: [ob] BUMI - PROJECT CANCEL

2009-07-29 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
OK, will do. Really appreciate this kind of info. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: Jack Cowok jackcow...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009

Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jend. Arto, Kalau berkenan, bisa kasih bocoran saham2 mana saja yang jadi JAGOAN BOZZ (except Indomie) dan PTBA ? Appreciate your response. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Whether there is self or not, it is attachment to self that perpetuates suffering. -Original Message- From:

Re: [ob] Re: Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jend. Arto, Kalau baca tulisan Anda tampak sekali bahwa Anda contra dengan pak Oentoeng apalagi dengan EL. Just curious, bukankah Anda bertiga seperguruan ? Atau setidak-tidaknya Anda dan pak Oentoeng? What a strategy do you apply? Hehehe. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.

Re: [ob] Re: Haruskah Jualan Hari ini?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Dear Obers, DID YOU NOTICE WHAT MBAH ALREADY SAID below? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Date:

Re: [ob] serbu bumi 2300 masa kaga berani..?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jend. Arto, ENTE bikin offer di 2325 dulu baru ane bantu hajar kanan, OK? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Mindfulness of oneself cultivates wisdom. Mindfulness of others cultivates compassion. -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@gmail.com

Re: [ob] bad joke..!

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jend. Arto could be wrong, and no one is free from making mistake. But what matter most is no hidden agenda when doing it for the sake of personal best interest. Just a thought. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®.Whether there is self or not, it is attachment to self that perpetuates

Re: [ob] Haruskah Jualan Hari ini?

2009-07-28 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Menurut Jend. Arto, yang tertinggi sedang menunggu (even IDX can make a new high by end of this year). So..invest!. Invest!, And Invest!. From: mail.lieferd...@yahoo.com mail.lieferd...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009

Re: [ob] UNVR + 9,7% jam 15:58

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Index dipaksa naik dengan menggunakan UNVR yang transaksinya hanya 9.8 Bio (+10.6%) dan 204 Bio untuk TLKM (+2.92%). Is it a window dressing strategy before a big correction starts? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®. Whether there is self or not, it is attachment to self that

Re: [ob] Mengapa berfikir akan terjadi crash/rally down/big koreksi ?

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Below is a provocative question!!! Jend. Arto, Keep it simplecan you drive BUMI price up to 3000 before Aug 17, 2009? ASII, BBRI, PGAS, all have been back to its price before crisis!!! Jangan kan 1/2 dari harga tertinggi BUMI(8500), 30% saja belum juga tercapai. BUMI is the most liquid

Re: [ob] BUMI mendadak maen???

2009-07-27 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Tunggu 3000. Jend. Arto and the honored group will make it happen before Aug 17, 2009. Will see it. From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:55:41 AM Subject: RE: [ob] BUMI

Re: [ob] Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-25 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Jika boleh saya tambahkan, yang perlu masuk dalam list Mbah atau boyz's list adalah Data Saham dan Bandar Bola karena mereka mampu memberi peringatan dini ke OBers agar tidak menjadi korban dari gerombolan liar (memijam istilah pak Jack Cowok). Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® Whether there

Re: mengenai informasi berbayar (was: Re: [ob] PTBA 11800)

2009-07-25 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Judge knowledge by how effective it is, not by how difficult it is to acquire. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry®. Whether there is self or not, it is attachment to self that perpetuates suffering. -Original Message- From: VF ™ vnnfortuna...@rocketmail.com Date: Sat, 25 Jul

Re: [ob] gantian. ngomongin artomoro aja..

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
This is a good idea Jenderall.!!! Kalau harga Bumi bisa 3000 sebelum 16 Aug, 5(*) Bintang buat Jend. Arto. Hehehe Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:01:42 To: obobrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com

[ob] To Jend. Arto = BUMI, 3 hari Yang MemBOSANkan ???

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Bumi, 3 hari yang membosankan (2050, 2025, 2050). Naik nggak, turun tidak. Panas nggak, dingin tidak. Maju ngga, Mundur tidak. Jalan di tempat, atau sideways, atau konsolidasiatau mungkin-kah situasi ini merupakan gambaran yang tersamar dari apa yang disebut OPortunis Tulen???

Re: [ob] Correction Scenarios... SOFT landing or HARD?

2009-07-24 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Jend Arto, If no one knows what will happen tomorrow? So, just enjoy the game, live the life to the fullest and embrace what the universe will present to us.    Sometimes, we are more than enough to what we need necessarily, but we're always deficient to what we desire for... hehehe. 

Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Pak G-Man, Ulasan Anda menarik dan sangat rasional. Sekecil apapun kalau digabung/disatukan dan bergerak ke satu arah pasti memiliki daya (Power) yang luar biasa. Sebagai contoh: kumpulan semut sekalipun dapat memindahkan Bola atau kumpulan titik-titik air bisa menjadi sebuah Danau/Sungai.

[ob] Stocks Are Cheap! Bull Sees Dow 10,000 By Year-End

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Stocks Are Cheap! Bull Sees Dow 10,000 By Year-EndPosted Jul 22, 2009 12:00pm EDT by Peter Gorenstein in Investing Related: ^dji, ^GSPC, , kre, xlf, skf Stocks are cheap -- very cheap, says Brian Wesbury, chief economist with First Trust Advisors. In fact, Wesbury says the market is

[ob] The Economy Is Much Stronger Than the Media Says

2009-07-22 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Wesbury: The Economy Is Much Stronger Than the Media SaysPosted Jul 22, 2009 09:51am EDT by Aaron Task Related: ^DJI, ^GSPC, SPY, DIA, TLT, XLF, TBT There's a growing consensus the economy will start growing again later this year but 2010 will be characterized by subpar growth. That consensus

Re: [ob] Yaaahhh...koq BUMI kalah ma ANTM seeehhh???

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Mudah2an Bumi ditutup di 2025. BUMI's victory will be back soon. From: Yanuar Mustofa yanuar.must...@yahoo.com To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 3:25:55 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Yaaahhh...koq BUMI kalah ma ANTM seeehhh???   Udah

Re: Bls: [ob] hajar kanan BUMI...!

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik jacob oen
This is GREAT General!!!. At least, lessen my potential loss...hehehe.. From: artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo.co.id To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:07:05 PM Subject: Bls: [ob] hajar kanan BUMI...!   ihsg +40 (2146) bumi close

Re: [ob] BBKP... CnH bukan... ?

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Time to invest. PER is still 6, while other Banks are much higher (expensive). From: Hans Kwee h...@bumianyar.net To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:35:04 AM Subject: [ob] BBKP... CnH bukan... ?   Cakep pak sy lihat ini pola

Re: [ob] Re: UPGRADE YOUR TARGET NOW

2009-07-21 Terurut Topik jacob oen
Since you can't control the market (except BIG BOZZ probably) why should the crowd be following you? Market are now more "LOGICAL". They've got the important lesson that "FEAR" is only creating more suffering. To be greedy...of course is notwise enough. Let's keep the optimism ALIVE since

Re: [ob] Re: World Bank: Global Economy Faces Deflation

2009-07-20 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Wah Jenderal kita memang selalu low profile dan seorang Man of action. Ini bukan gossip, bukan issue apalagi Rumors. he he he Ditunggu Komando selanjutnya, perkara benar atau salah...bukan masalah, yang penting Jenderal berani kasih Komando. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original

Re: [ob] Hukuman Tepat Buat Teroris

2009-07-19 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
The following are taken from the essence of Wisdom Teaching; The man who perform evil acts, suffer in both worlds. He suffers the results of his act in this world and he suffers in dreading the vicissitudes of the next world. Such is the fate of the evil doer. Listen now to an Eternal Law of

Re: [ob] Ada yg mengaitkan BOM dgn PILPRES

2009-07-18 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Statemen SBY kemarin bisa memunculkan multi tafsir. Dari pihak Presiden tentu ada alasan untuk membuat pernyataan seperti itu. Tetapi dari pihak lain (kontestan pilpres lain) juga punya alasan untuk menyanggah dan mengomentari statemen tersebut. Yang terpenting, yang diharapkan oleh Rakyat

[ob] YANG MEMBUNUH (berbasa-basi sejenak)

2009-07-17 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ketika berlangsung sebuah pertemuan akbar untuk memprotes pendirian pabrik BOM Nuklir, Sang Guru dan para muridnya terlihat dalam kerumunan itu. Tepuk tangan riuh menyambut pernyataan, Bom membunuh manusia! Sang Guru menggelengkan kepala dan berguman, Itu tidak benar, Manusia membunuh manusia!

Re: [ob] GEROMBOLAN LIAR - Go Ahead

2009-07-17 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
GL or Non GL, FM, Bozz, investor and daily traderthey all are part of the game, yang terpenting kita investor/trader kecil jangan sampai menjadi korban mereka. Jadi informasi penting atau peringatan dini dari para Senior OB seperti Pak Oentoeng, Jend. Arto, Pak JC, Mr. Bandar Bola, Mr.

Re: [ob] GEROMBOLAN LIAR - Go Ahead

2009-07-17 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
.. Cuman masih bingung liar ama resmi.. Peace deh.. Powered by willtosurvive -Original Message- From: Jacob Oen oenja...@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:39:10 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [ob] GEROMBOLAN LIAR - Go Ahead GL or Non GL, FM, Bozz, investor and daily trader

Re: [ob] Be Careful of PYFA

2009-07-16 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
This is very beneficial info. Pls keep posting this kind of info to prevent OB member from becoming a victim of violent Bandar. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: datasahamku datasaha...@yahoo.com Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 03:44:05 To:

Re: [ob] Edan euy...! 2105 ditembusin...!

2009-07-15 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
IDX Kembali Menemukan Jati Dirinya. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Tasrul tas...@overseas.co.id Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:01:46 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] Edan euy...! 2105 ditembusin...! EL pasti udah belanja Bu Fifi, makanya hari

Re: [ob] jangan kasi el barang

2009-07-14 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
No, she is not a trader nor investor, She is a Big Profit Maker. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:05:52 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ob] jangan kasi el barang No, she's not an investor.,

Re: [ob] Trading Diary: Markets Warn Of Correction

2009-07-13 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
It's neutral and just a prediction. Nothing more, nothing less. Even worse when Dow touched 6500 in early March, an analyst if I'm not mistaken from WSJ said that Dow will make a new low at 5000 and SP500 at 500,, but the fact was Dow rebound to 8500. In stock market none will predict

[ob] Are You Unhappy With Who You Are? (1 Minute Wisdom)

2009-07-13 Terurut Topik Jacob Oen
Ketika Kita Penat Melihat Situasi Stock Market.Mudah2an Kutipan di bawah dapat Memberi sedikit Kelegaan dan Pencerahan. ARE YOU UNHAPPY WITH WHO YOU ARE? Looking for Big Suit? Or Beautiful Suit? Or Eloquent or Rich or Intelligent or Suave or? You know, we could fill up a whole

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