Re: [OctDev] [Rd] Non-free packages in CRAN

2011-11-18 Thread Robert T. Short
Where is the "like" button when you need it? Joris Meys wrote: > 2011/11/18 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso: > >> I don't see how MOSEK is making free software stronger. It's not >> encouraging the usage of more free software. It's encouraging the use >> of MOSEK. MOSEK should not be endorsed by an or

[OctDev] Problem with octclip

2011-11-18 Thread Tobias Andersson
First of all, hi everyone! I'm new here and hope that this is the right way to post bug reports. Otherwise, please inform me how to do it. Now, I installed octclip to find intersections between polygons and found an odd behaviour when sections of different polygons follow the same line. Also, S

Re: [OctDev] [Rd] Non-free packages in CRAN

2011-11-18 Thread Joris Meys
2011/11/18 Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso : > > I don't see how MOSEK is making free software stronger. It's not > encouraging the usage of more free software. It's encouraging the use > of MOSEK. MOSEK should not be endorsed by an organisation that is > supposed to promote free software. > > If these rea

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Juan Pablo Carbajal
2011/11/18 Martin Helm : > Am 18.11.2011 21:11, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso: >> Please accept my apology again if I have upset you personally. I would >> like to make amends and not make you feel like I am the only one who >> is correct. - Jordi G. H. > I am sorry, let us keep it civilized with

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Martin Helm
Am 18.11.2011 21:11, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso: > Please accept my apology again if I have upset you personally. I would > like to make amends and not make you feel like I am the only one who > is correct. - Jordi G. H. I am sorry, let us keep it civilized with that I also address myself, I

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2011/11/18 Martin Helm : > Am 18.11.2011 20:39, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso: >> You really don't think that license managers, software patents, NDAs, >> non-competition agreements, hidden source code, secret algorithms, and >> forbidding your users from doing whatever they want with the softwar

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Carnë Draug
On 18 November 2011 19:14, Robert T. Short wrote: > Martin's point makes a lot of sense. However, I still don't see the > problem with hosting non-free software in the forge project. The problem is that when a new version of such package is released, someone need to upload it to the server. The

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Martin Helm
Am 18.11.2011 20:39, schrieb Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso: > You really don't think that license managers, software patents, NDAs, > non-competition agreements, hidden source code, secret algorithms, and > forbidding your users from doing whatever they want with the software > is at all bad? That's what

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 18 November 2011 14:14, Robert T. Short wrote: > Martin's point makes a lot of sense.  However, I still don't see the > problem with hosting non-free software in the forge project. > > Personally, I think the notion that non-free software is somehow bad is > ludicrous. You really don't think t

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Robert T. Short
Martin's point makes a lot of sense. However, I still don't see the problem with hosting non-free software in the forge project. Personally, I think the notion that non-free software is somehow bad is ludicrous. Freedom means allowing different points of view and different philosophies to coe

Re: [OctDev] Package name on function page of Octave-Forge

2011-11-18 Thread Miguel Rubio-Roy
El 17/11/2011, a las 16:40, c. escribió:On 17 Nov 2011, at 11:51, Miguel Rubio-Roy wrote:For example, inhttp://octave.sourceforge.net/signal/function/medfilt1.htmlshould be indicated that this function is in the signal package.Sounds, like a good suggestion!The function documentation pages are gene

Re: [OctDev] [Rd] Non-free packages in R-Forge

2011-11-18 Thread Marc Schwartz
On Nov 18, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote: > I'm sorry about the tone of my previous email. Let me try again in a > cleaner way. > > The problem is: R or the organisation behind R via its infrastructure > seems to be endorsing R-Forge, and R-Forge is hosting at least one > proj

Re: [OctDev] [Rd] Non-free packages in CRAN

2011-11-18 Thread Simon Urbanek
Jordi, I think you are misunderstanding a few things here. First, "R" doesn't endorse anything - it is a program, it does what you tell it to do. Second, whoever runs R-forge doesn't endorse the packages hosted on it, either. It's just an infrastructure, with no claim about endorsement of the p

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Martin Helm
Am 18.11.2011 18:51, schrieb Robert T. Short: > I understand that. If it isn't available from the website, at the > very least it creates an obstacle to using it, and therefore is a > suppression of freedom. A nonfree (sub)repository is a perfect > place to give users access to stuff that may be us

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
On 18 November 2011 12:51, Robert T. Short wrote: > I understand that.  If it isn't available from the website, at the very > least it creates an obstacle to using it, and therefore is a suppression > of freedom. That obstacle is meant to discourage the creator of the non-free software and to enc

Re: [OctDev] [Rd] Non-free packages in R-Forge

2011-11-18 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
I'm sorry about the tone of my previous email. Let me try again in a cleaner way. The problem is: R or the organisation behind R via its infrastructure seems to be endorsing R-Forge, and R-Forge is hosting at least one project whose sole purpose is to link R with non-free software. This looks like

Re: [OctDev] future of non-free in octave-forge

2011-11-18 Thread Robert T. Short
I understand that. If it isn't available from the website, at the very least it creates an obstacle to using it, and therefore is a suppression of freedom. A nonfree (sub)repository is a perfect place to give users access to stuff that may be useful even though it doesn't meet the standards o

Re: [OctDev] [Rd] Non-free packages in CRAN

2011-11-18 Thread Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
2011/11/18 Simon Urbanek : > I think you are misunderstanding a few things here. First, "R" > doesn't endorse anything - it is a program, It is also an organisation and that organisation has a website. Someone is responsible for the contents of that website and the views espoused in it. Saying tha

Re: [OctDev] Problem with oct2xls

2011-11-18 Thread Philip Nienhuis
Hello Martin, Martin Hoeijmakers wrote: > Hi Philip, > > Looking at you name, I think you are dutch speaking. Yep that's my native tongue. I'll proceed in English and I added octdev mailing list so others can follow. > I am using oct2xls for a while with only three arguments. Now, I get the >

[OctDev] Getting error from rate() function

2011-11-18 Thread Júlio Maranhão
2011/11/17 Juan Pablo Carbajal : > Octave 3.4.3, financial 0.3.2 > octave:2> rate(30, 510.19, 1) > error: @pv (x, 30, 510.19, 0, "e") - 1: no function and no method found > error: called from: > error:   /usr/local/share/octave/3.4.3-rc0/m/optimization/fsolve.m at > line 149, column 9 > err

Re: [OctDev] Package name on function page of Octave-Forge

2011-11-18 Thread Carlo de Falco
On 18 Nov 2011, at 13:55, c. wrote: > > On 18 Nov 2011, at 00:00, Miguel Rubio-Roy wrote: > >> Let's see... Is there a function to get the package name of a certain >> function? >> miguel > > You don't need that because you run generate_package_html on one package at a > time. > so whene you

Re: [OctDev] Package name on function page of Octave-Forge

2011-11-18 Thread c.
On 18 Nov 2011, at 00:00, Miguel Rubio-Roy wrote: > Let's see... Is there a function to get the package name of a certain > function? > miguel You don't need that because you run generate_package_html on one package at a time. so whene you are launching generate_package_html you do know the na

Re: [OctDev] Package name on function page of Octave-Forge

2011-11-18 Thread Andy Buckle
On 17 November 2011 23:00, Miguel Rubio-Roy wrote: > Let's see... Is there a function to get the package name of a certain > function? > > miguel Help output will show you the directory, which is the package. You do have to know to look for this. I am not sure it is worth being more explicit. In

Re: [OctDev] Package name on function page of Octave-Forge

2011-11-18 Thread Miguel Rubio-Roy
Let's see... Is there a function to get the package name of a certain function? miguel El 17/11/2011, a las 16:40, c. escribió: > > On 17 Nov 2011, at 11:51, Miguel Rubio-Roy wrote: > >> I don't know if this is the appropriate place to ask for this, but it would >> be quite helpful that the w