Re: [Ogf-l] Using OGL Material (Specifically the SRD) in an online game.

2003-07-31 Thread Damian
From: "Bryan Gillispie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I would say that even in you case it is distribution. > The OGL defines distribution as: "Distribute means to reproduce, > license, rent, lease, sell, broadcast, publicly display, transmit or > otherwise distribute." You're not doing any of those thing

RE: [Ogf-l] Using OGL Material (Specifically the SRD) in an online game.

2003-07-31 Thread Bryan Gillispie
I would say that even in you case it is distribution. The OGL defines distribution as: "Distribute means to reproduce, license, rent, lease, sell, broadcast, publicly display, transmit or otherwise distribute." Even if none of the other above terms applied you are still reproducing either in parts

Re: [Ogf-l] Using OGL Material (Specifically the SRD) in an online game.

2003-07-31 Thread Damian
From: "Bryan Gillispie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > IRC from past pots, your big problem will be keeping the SRD separate > from the rest of your code, this is to avoid licensing conflicts. > You might want to look up some of the pasts posts in the archives. But if you don't distribute it, it's not an i

RE: [Ogf-l] Using OGL Material (Specifically the SRD) in an online game.

2003-07-31 Thread Bryan Gillispie
IRC from past pots, your big problem will be keeping the SRD separate from the rest of your code, this is to avoid licensing conflicts. You might want to look up some of the pasts posts in the archives. Bryan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf O

RE: [Ogf-l] Using OGL Material (Specifically the SRD) in an onlinegame.

2003-07-31 Thread Jeremy Noetzelman
The only reference to online-only server based games I was able to find in the list archives concluded that it did not constitute distribution. Your comment seems to indicate that there was other traffic I missed. Could you point that out to me, since I couldn't find it on my own? I'm not too int

RE: [Ogf-l] Using OGL Material (Specifically the SRD) in an online game.

2003-07-31 Thread Brad Thompson
This has been hotly debated, so you aren't going to get a clear answer here. My advice is hire an attorney and ask him. My answer is 'maybe' and it depends on so many factors that it isn't really worth saying much more. -Brad -Original Message- From: Jeremy Noetzelman

[Ogf-l] Using OGL Material (Specifically the SRD) in an online game.

2003-07-31 Thread Jeremy Noetzelman
I've perused various websites, google, wizards, and the archives for this mailing list and haven't found a good answer for this question. I want to use parts of the SRD in an online game, specifically a MUD. Does this constitute distribution? In terms of the GPL, for example, server side applicat

Re: [Ogf-l] SRD 3.5 Available as PDF

2003-07-31 Thread Jeff Mills
As I had not downloaded the 3.5 SRD yet, this is a very welcome tool.    Jeffrey A. Mills, DVM [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.DimensionsGameSoftware.com Home of the RPG Toolbox, Starting Points, and the iSRD

RE: [Ogf-l] SRD released (apparantly)

2003-07-31 Thread Web Warlock
Doug, Where did you see this? I have been looking for a bit and still see the same 3.0 information. Thanks, Tim -- Timothy S. Brannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "So many different people to be." - Donovan, Season of the Witch > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [Ogf-l] SRD 3.5 Available as PDF

2003-07-31 Thread Web Warlock
Excellent! You saved me the trouble of doing the same thing. Plus it looks nice. Thanks! Tim -- Timothy S. Brannan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- "So many different people to be." - Donovan, Season of the Witch > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

Re: [Ogf-l] SRD 3.5 Available as PDF

2003-07-31 Thread Doug Meerschaert
Vintyri Project wrote: As a public service to other d20 System (R) designers, the Vintryi (TM) Project has issued a new, *free* publication in PDF format called "License Documents" 1.0. Kudos on the "free gift as ad" move, but... You didn't improve the readability of the files. Left-aligned t

RE: [Ogf-l] SRD 3.5 Available as PDF

2003-07-31 Thread Bryan Fields
Mark, you're a wonder! Danke! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vintyri Project Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ogf-l] SRD 3.5 Available as PDF As a public service to other d20 System (R) designers, t

[Ogf-l] SRD 3.5 Available as PDF

2003-07-31 Thread Vintyri Project
As a public service to other d20 System (R) designers, the Vintryi (TM) Project has issued a new, *free* publication in PDF format called "License Documents" 1.0. It contains: -- The new Version 3.5 of the d20 System Reference Document (SRD) -- The d20 System Guide 2.0 -- The d20 System License 3

Re: [Ogf-l] "D20" as Product Identity

2003-07-31 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 7/31/03 1:54:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: < >> I would argue that there is no "clarity" with regards to PI ownership in the license. I agree as a matter of common sense, rather than as a matter of law, that you shouldn't expect to protect anything t

RE: [Ogf-l] "D20" as Product Identity

2003-07-31 Thread Bryan Fields
Title: Message Well, until the issue is resolved, another legal doctrine comes in to play.  Since you know or reasonably should know that this ambiguity in the contract presents a possible danger to your intellectual property, you have a duty to mitigate your damages and not put anything at

Re: [Ogf-l] "D20" as Product Identity

2003-07-31 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 7/31/03 1:13:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: < head with a big foam cluebat.  Individually, there is no way those things could be enforceable declared PI.  >> And that's the problem I have.  If one believes that some elements of PI were intended to be p

Re: [Ogf-l] "D20" as Product Identity

2003-07-31 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 7/31/03 12:53:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: < because the WotC OGL appears to allow you to claim as PI things that *don't* pass muster, according to what you've written above.  It doesn't just say you can claim the distinctive likeness of a character

Re: [Ogf-l] d20 as Product identity

2003-07-31 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 7/31/03 1:01:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: < book titles can't be trademarked, but book series can be?  It seems to me that "Cyberpunk D20", to use a concrete example, wouldn't be eligible for trademark status--does that mean the 'D20' in it is being

RE: [Ogf-l] "D20" as Product Identity

2003-07-31 Thread Bryan Fields
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of woodelf >Agreed on all of the above. But it doesn't solve the problem, because the WotC OGL appears to allow you to claim as PI things that *don't* pass muster, according to what you've written above. It

[Ogf-l] Open Gaming Foundation in violation of OGL !?

2003-07-31 Thread Scott Metzger
Hi, There is a broken link to thge legal information for the 3.0 SRD that is hosted on the Open Gaming Foundations website. If you go to: http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd.html The link to: http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd/srdlegal.html is broken. Scott --

[Ogf-l] Thank you OGF

2003-07-31 Thread Peggy Kvam
I feel obliged to thank this forum for all the helpful advice on complying with the Open Gaming License on those tricky legal points. We introduced the SRD template for Metacreator at Gen Con Indy last week. We worked hard to meet all the requirements, which were clarified greatly after read

[Ogf-l] Open Gaming Foundation in violation of OGL

2003-07-31 Thread Scott Metzger
Hi, I just noticed that the links to the Legal information on the SRD pages hosted by the OGF are broken: On this page http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd.html the link to http://www.opengamingfoundation.org/srd/srdlegal.html is broken. Thanks, Scott Metzger

[Ogf-l] 3.5 SRD

2003-07-31 Thread Jeff Mills
Does anyone know if the "all-in-one SRD" download been updated appropriately yet?

Re: [Ogf-l] "D20" as Product Identity

2003-07-31 Thread woodelf
At 19:16 -0400 7/23/03, Scott Broadbent wrote: I will agree that PI may be of little to no protection to names and terms that are fairly generic, or commonplace. Your example being Hero Points. The problem with your method to circumvent PI comes in when you try to use names which only exist withi

Re: [Ogf-l] d20 as Product identity

2003-07-31 Thread woodelf
At 21:04 -0500 7/23/03, Tim Dugger wrote: Just saw that the legal document has been updated so that it now says d20 (when used as a trademark) instead of just d20 anybody have any idea how this interfaces with the idea that single book titles can't be trademarked, but book series can be? It see

RE: [Ogf-l] "D20" as Product Identity

2003-07-31 Thread woodelf
At 11:14 -0600 7/24/03, Bryan Fields wrote: Part of standard language for protecting fictional characters is the phrase 'the distinctive likeness thereof'. Bugs Bunny, for example, CANNOT exist as an intellectual property if the distinctive likeness of the character is excluded. He isn't just an