Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-14 Thread david_shepheard
- Original Message - From: "Doug Meerschaert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 6:54 PM > On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:22:21 -0500, woodelf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Long answer: With the exception of Unearthed Arcana and a couple > > monsters (in either MMII or FF--i fo

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread spikeyj
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Damian wrote: > > There is. And apparently it has succeeded in being subtle enough that > > it's not obvious: one of them always uses "you", while the other > > always uses "your character" (right now, i forget which is which, and > > i don't feel like checking because it does

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread Damian
On Thursday 12 August 2004 05:09 pm, woodelf wrote: > There is. And apparently it has succeeded in being subtle enough that > it's not obvious: one of them always uses "you", while the other > always uses "your character" (right now, i forget which is which, and > i don't feel like checking because

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread woodelf
At 15:20 -0400 8/12/04, DarkTouch wrote: I like the 'closely parallels' line and think it would be funny if there were specific key points where they differed in presentation that would work as key markers for WotC to check and see if you were copying out of the SRD or the Player's Handbook. Grante

Re: "unclaimed trademarks"? (was: Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL)

2004-08-12 Thread woodelf
At 13:52 -0400 8/12/04, Doug Meerschaert wrote: On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:25:17 -0500, woodelf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Furthermore, i thought that the title of a single work was, perhaps with exceptions, not trademarkable--only series of works could benefit from trademark protection. Hence, the

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread DarkTouch
I like the 'closely parallels' line and think it would be funny if there were specific key points where they differed in presentation that would work as key markers for WotC to check and see if you were copying out of the SRD or the Player's Handbook. Granted a developer would have to be stupid not

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread Doug Meerschaert
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:22:21 -0500, woodelf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Long answer: With the exception of Unearthed Arcana and a couple > monsters (in either MMII or FF--i forget), none of WotC's books have > OGC in them. However, WotC *has* released the D20SRD, which can be > found, among other

Re: "unclaimed trademarks"? (was: Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL)

2004-08-12 Thread Doug Meerschaert
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 12:25:17 -0500, woodelf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Furthermore, i thought that the title of a single work was, perhaps > with exceptions, not trademarkable--only series of works could > benefit from trademark protection. Hence, the definition of "trademark" in the OGL. [(f)

RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread OStephens
woodelf wrote: <> The monsters are in the back of the MMII. There's also considerable ogc in d20 Modern Weapons Locker. Owen K.C. Stephens ___ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.opengamingfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf-l

RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread woodelf
At 13:43 + 8/12/04, Daniel Marshall wrote: The source I assume is the book that I would be getting the terms from. And where would that designation of open content be found? Beginning of the book? End of the book? Yes. Usually on the credits, table-of-contents, or title page. Since you are

"unclaimed trademarks"? (was: Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL)

2004-08-12 Thread woodelf
At 10:41 -0400 8/12/04, Doug Meerschaert wrote: And don't forget that trademarks--even unclaimed ones, like the mere title of a single book--are given special protection by the OGL. Huh? How can you have an unclaimed trademark? I understood that one of the requirements of trademark status is that

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 8/12/2004 10:31:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not to sound ignorant but what is the SRD? visit   http://members.aol.com/veritasgames/fudge_ogl_faq.html What is an SRD? "SRD" means System Reference Document. Typically, but not always, its a

RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread Gillispie, Bryan W.
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Marshall Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL The source I assume is the book that I would be getting the terms from. And where would that designation of open content be found

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread Doug Meerschaert
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 01:17:42 -0400, Scott Broadbent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In addition, under the "White Out" theory, only those terms which > actually appear within a section of OGC, could actually be declared as > PI. Some companies declare their logos as PI. Unless the logo is > actuall

RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread Daniel Marshall
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:51:16 -0400 PI: Somewhere in the source (assuming that the source is published under the OGL), the publisher is supposed to have a 'designat

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread Daniel Marshall
Not to sound ignorant but what is the SRD? Steelight Shadowborne From: Scott Broadbent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 01:17:42 -0400 << I am very new to this but I would like to know what coun

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-12 Thread HUDarklord
In a message dated 8/12/2004 12:39:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am very new to this but I would like to know what counts as PI and what I can use.  I'm also really confused as to what kind of stuff I can use, what I need written permission for and what I si

Re: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-11 Thread Scott Broadbent
<< I am very new to this but I would like to know what counts as PI and what I can use. I'm also really confused as to what kind of stuff I can use, what I need written permission for and what I simply cannot include. >> Every few months a particular discussion regarding PI resurfaces in vario

RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-11 Thread Steven Trustrum
ublisher in question. Steven Trustrum President For Life (or until the money runs out) Misfit Studios -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Marshall Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 12:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Ogf-l] D20 O

RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-11 Thread Paul W. King
been happening about 'asking permission' has been around courtesy...its not required by the OGL. Paul W. King -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Daniel Marshall Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 11:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [

RE: [Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-11 Thread Reginald Cablayan
-Original Message- From: Daniel Marshall > > I am very new to this but I would like to know what > counts as PI and what I can use. I'm also really > confused as to what kind of stuff I can use, what > I need written permission for and what I simply > cannot include. You can only use

[Ogf-l] D20 OGL

2004-08-11 Thread Daniel Marshall
I am very new to this but I would like to know what counts as PI and what I can use. I'm also really confused as to what kind of stuff I can use, what I need written permission for and what I simply cannot include. Daniel ___ Ogf-l mailing list [EMAIL

RE: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL clarification

2003-06-06 Thread Lynn Fredricks
> With an increasing number of OGL works being composed in part > (sometimes very large part) of non-SRD contributions to Open > Content, a lawsuit and legal threat in the area of Linux may > be of interest to folks on this list. Here's one article on the topic: > http://yahoo.businessweek.com/

Re: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL clarification

2003-06-06 Thread John Nephew
With an increasing number of OGL works being composed in part (sometimes very large part) of non-SRD contributions to Open Content, a lawsuit and legal threat in the area of Linux may be of interest to folks on this list. Here's one article on the topic: http://yahoo.businessweek.com/technology/co

[Ogf-l] d20/OGL Infractions by Fast Forward

2003-04-12 Thread Justin Bacon
Andrew McDougall wrote: You couldn't tell if it was. MM2 has only the OGL v.1.0 in its Sec. 15. Doesn't even list itself, which bothers me more than a little Oh, yeah. I'd forgotten that WotC screwed up their own license. Justin Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL Infractions by Fast Forward

2003-04-12 Thread Clark Peterson
> Whenever I write for a D20 product I make a point of > including the specific > Section 15 content that needs to be included in the > final product. All > they've got to do is copy and paste the material > into the Section 15 of the > book and they're good to go. We require our authors to bot

Re: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL Infractions by Fast Forward

2003-04-12 Thread Clark Peterson
Yeah, their OGC designation was not very good. They didnt do it right. They even credited the Creature Collection to Necromancer Games, when instead it was SSS. But that was a bit confusing because it is copyrighted to me. So I can understand that one. Clark --- Tir Gwaith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL Infractions by Fast Forward

2003-04-12 Thread Fred
--- Tir Gwaith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (Not having seen the book in question, I'm assuming that the MM2 wasn't > > mentioned in the Section 15 of the product at all. I could easily be > > mistaken.) > > You couldn't tell if it was. MM2 has only the OGL v.1.0 in its Sec. 15. > Doesn't even

Re: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL Infractions by Fast Forward

2003-04-12 Thread Tir Gwaith
> (Not having seen the book in question, I'm assuming that the MM2 wasn't > mentioned in the Section 15 of the product at all. I could easily be > mistaken.) You couldn't tell if it was. MM2 has only the OGL v.1.0 in its Sec. 15. Doesn't even list itself, which bothers me more than a little Andr

Re: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL Infractions by Fast Forward

2003-04-12 Thread GreenRonin
In a message dated 4/11/2003 3:49:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having read the list of infractions, all I can say is that Jim Ward having to destroy product due to use of 'Drawmij' pegged my irony meter. We don't actually know that any product was destroyed. The releas

Re: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL Infractions by Fast Forward

2003-04-12 Thread Brad Johnston
At 06:32 PM 4/12/2003 +, Justin Bacon took quill in hand to say: (Not having seen the book in question, I'm assuming that the MM2 wasn't mentioned in the Section 15 of the product at all. I could easily be mistaken.) I gather that the product in question used monsters from MM2 that weren't OG

Re: [Ogf-l] d20/OGL Infractions by Fast Forward

2003-04-12 Thread Justin Bacon
Steve Creech wrote: I talked with Fast Forward last week about Enchanted Locations and their response was that the author was under the assumption that the OGL declaratin in the back of Monster Manual II meant the stuff was open content. Rule number one for writers: Know what the license means! Whe