Re: [oi-dev] Discussing maintainers visibility in oi-userland

2017-05-12 Thread Dariusz Sendkowski
In my opinion, the current system looks fine. Having a maintainer per component could be a nightmare for both maintainers and contributors. Maintainers are usually bottlenecks for various reasons no matter how hard they try not to be. It could slow down the whole process significantly. Right now, i

Re: [oi-dev] Discussing maintainers visibility in oi-userland

2017-05-12 Thread Till Wegmüller
If we talk bigger components like XFCE i would say that this is pretty much how we are handeling them right now. We only take in these when we know that a Contributor is able to support them over a period of time. Otherwise we leave try to put stuff like this into SFE or pkgsrc where there are

[oi-dev] netCDF

2017-05-12 Thread Dariusz Sendkowski
Hi, I'm working on adding netCDF (C distribution) library to oi-userland. I'm gonna put it into scientific/netcdf and set FMRI library/math/netcdf. However, I'm not sure whether FMRI is appropriate since there are a few distributions of net

Re: [oi-dev] netCDF

2017-05-12 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 05/12/17 01:57 PM, Dariusz Sendkowski wrote: Hi, I'm working on adding netCDF (C distribution) library to oi-userland. I'm gonna put it into scientific/netcdf and set FMRI library/math/netcdf. However, I'm not sure whether FMRI is appr

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Gordon Ross
Well, when a package is made "obsolete" by another (newer) one, we're telling the packaging system that the newer one is a compatible replacement for the older one, right? In this case, that's not true. Python 2.7 is not a compatible replacement for Python 2.6. With it marked obsolete, IPS actual

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 05/12/17 04:40 PM, Gordon Ross wrote: Well, when a package is made "obsolete" by another (newer) one, we're telling the packaging system that the newer one is a compatible replacement for the older one, right? In this case, that's not true. Python 2.7 is not a compatible replacement for Pytho

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Gordon Ross
I'm not saying you have to keep building and delivering it, but if the packaging system would not force me to remove such older packages, that would have made my life easier. On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Alexander Pyhalov wrote: > On 05/12/17 04:40 PM, Gordon Ross wrote: >> >> Well, when a p

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Gordon Ross
Admittedly, this one of the things about IPS that has long bother me. It's very "opinionated". IPS "knows better" than I do what packages should be installed, and in what versions, etc. and if I don't happen to agree (i.e. in this case, please don't just remove Python 2.5) well, that's just too ba

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 05/12/17 05:01 PM, Gordon Ross wrote: Admittedly, this one of the things about IPS that has long bother me. It's very "opinionated". IPS "knows better" than I do what packages should be installed, and in what versions, etc. and if I don't happen to agree (i.e. in this case, please don't just

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Toomas Soome
> On 12. mai 2017, at 17:01, Gordon Ross wrote: > > Admittedly, this one of the things about IPS that has > long bother me. It's very "opinionated". > IPS "knows better" than I do what packages should > be installed, and in what versions, etc. and if I don't > happen to agree (i.e. in this case

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Gordon Ross
Well, the point really is this. I can (still), outside of IPS go grab the Python 2.6 packages from the repo server and install them and they work [1]. Why should the packaging system go out of it's way to prevent that? Instead, IPS says "you _must_ remove this" (because the package was marked obs

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
On 05/12/17 05:23 PM, Gordon Ross wrote: Well, the point really is this. I can (still), outside of IPS go grab the Python 2.6 packages from the repo server and install them and they work [1]. Why should the packaging system go out of it's way to prevent that? Instead, IPS says "you _must_ remov

Re: [oi-dev] Can I still install older perl and python?

2017-05-12 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 05/12/17 07:01 AM, Gordon Ross wrote: Admittedly, this one of the things about IPS that has long bother me. It's very "opinionated". IPS "knows better" than I do what packages should be installed, and in what versions, etc. and if I don't happen to agree (i.e. in this case, please don't just

Re: [oi-dev] exiv2 broken?

2017-05-12 Thread Andreas Wacknitz
Am 12.05.17 um 08:06 schrieb Carsten Grzemba: On 11.05.17 21:20, *Andreas Wacknitz * wrote: Sorry, I haven't been able to help here. I am quite busy with private things at the moment. Regards, Andreas Am 11.05.17 um 13:42 schrieb Carsten Grzemba: On 10.05.17 07:21, *Carsten Grzemba

[oi-dev] GDL

2017-05-12 Thread Dariusz Sendkowski
Hi, I'm trying to add GNU Data Language to oi-userland, however this component has a few optional dependencies (like eigen3, pslib etc.), which are currently unavailable in oi-userland. GDL can be built without them but I was wondering whether it would be

Re: [oi-dev] GDL

2017-05-12 Thread Aurélien Larcher
À Vendredi 12 mai 2017, Dariusz Sendkowski a écrit : > Hi, > > I'm trying to add GNU Data Language > to oi-userland, however this > component has a few optional dependencies (like eigen3, pslib etc.), which > are currently unavailable in oi-userland. GDL