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--- Comment #105 from Alvaro Manuel Recio Perez 2010-11-01
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I'm very sorry. I decided to publish my comment here because I was under the
impression that the limit was set as a result of this particular issue (due to
comments like https
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Alvaro i don't see this limit being linked to this discussion as far as i
remember that's always been our limit and i see no reason to change it. Please
if you disagree subscribe and
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Albert, now that this issue have been happily resolved wouldn't it make sense
to restore the limit of votes per bug to 20?
In my opinion, a newcomer would have a hard time tr
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Thank you!
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--- Comment #101 from Pascal d'Hermilly 2010-10-31
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I hope something like this will never happen again in KDE.
Please everybody, remember the costs of this wishlist-item that is finally
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--- Comment #99 from Alf Mel 2010-10-30 16:07:45 ---
Thank you, Albert for committing the patch! You have also fixed other issues,
including some I have submitted, and I appreciate that.
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--- Comment #98 from Alvaro Manuel Recio Perez 2010-10-30
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Thank you. I'd say much more than 53 users will be grateful.
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--- Comment #97 from Kelytha 2010-10-30 00:25:39 ---
Thank you very much Albert!
I'm really glad that you have put a happy end to this issue.
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--- Comment #96 from Martin Steigerwald 2010-10-29
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Thanks, Albert!
And re your comment #92: I think you misunderstood me. I perceived lack of
professionality on both sides and saw the only way to resolve it with one side
doing the fi
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Thank you Albert.
I hope I never hurt you in the past, but if I did, accept my apologies as it
certainly was not intentional.
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--- Comment #93 from Kelytha 2010-10-29 23:41:36 ---
Stating my opinion, and saying that we don't have to agree is not a hint about
"bad engineer". It is only an opinion, nothing else.
Please don't see something into my words which I never put the
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Kelytha, Martin, you guys really need to learn how to convince people because
hints about "bad engineer" and "not professional" are exactly how not to do it
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--- Comment #91 from Martin Steigerwald 2010-10-29
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(In reply to comment #86)
> This is not about engineeering, this is about life.
>
> If your little kid hits you and cries because he doesn't get candy, you don't
> give him the candy
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--- Comment #90 from Alvaro Manuel Recio Perez 2010-10-29
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In fact, there are no "kids" to educate. You are dealing with lots of Okular
users, most if which aren't even aware that this discussion exists.
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--- Comment #89 from Alvaro Manuel Recio Perez 2010-10-29
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Albert, do you really think misbehaving users still care about this feature?
They probably carried on with their lives and went to troll elsewhere. Why
weren't they banned from
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--- Comment #88 from Kelytha 2010-10-29 22:27:36 ---
Software development is a form of engineering. Deciding if you implement a
feature or not is an enginnering decision therefore.
What you explained now only reinforces what I have said above.
In
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--- Comment #87 from2010-10-29 22:18:12 ---
Perhaps we should think of comment trolls as conducting a "denial of service"
attack on the open source development process. We shouldn't let anyone prevent
us from developing and using the best softwar
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This is not about engineeering, this is about life.
If your little kid hits you and cries because he doesn't get candy, you don't
give him the candy, this gives the bad example for hi
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It is not the question if it is unfair or not. It is the problem of an
engineering decision is being made based on emotions.
Also, why _all_ (well, all those who would like to use a real fullscr
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--- Comment #83 from Kelytha 2010-10-29 10:26:23 ---
It seems very likely that the feature won't go into KDE 4.6. We are past the
soft feature freeze and Okular has no listed items in the feature plan, which
means if the developers take these sched
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After reading Albert Astals Cid's latest blog post about Qt merge request
process
(http://tsdgeos.blogspot.com/2010/10/qt-gitorious-merge-requests-and-open.html)
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+1
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Obviously if we ever end up adding this feature it will never be part of KDE
4.5.x since no new features are allowed on stable releases.
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--- Comment #77 from Alf Mel 2010-08-27 17:38:48 ---
I remember when this bug was first reported some 2 years ago. I was hoping
this would have been fixed in KDE 4.5 but it wasn't. Now I come to see the bug
report with a huge discussion, flame wa
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--- Comment #78 from Pascal d'Hermilly 2010-08-27
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@Alf
It is not technical. This report developed into a rather nasty dispute between
some developers and users. One (was it two?) developer actually stopped
working on Okular because o
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--- Comment #74 from uetsah 2010-07-09 12:54:16 ---
Oh, right, of course, stupid me... (Guess I was a little too tired.)
(Btw, another "solution" to this bug report might be to make the Presentation
mode more generic (optionally allow zooming, pan
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--- Comment #73 from Luigi Toscano 2010-07-04
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(In reply to comment #72)
> Hey fellow users, apparently in Okular 0.10.4 (shipped with KDE SC 4.4.4)
> there is no bottom bar in full-screen mode anymore, and instead an
> unobtrusive hid
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--- Comment #69 from2010-04-28 19:34:28 ---
Created an attachment (id=43085)
--> (http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=43085)
New version of kde2eran patch
@kde2eran
Sure! Here it is - the updated patch. Tested on current svn.
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--- Comment #65 from Martin 2010-03-09 10:09:28 ---
(In reply to comment #3)
> Created an attachment (id=23451)
--> (http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=23451) [details]
> Patch to add a "Show Bottom Bar" option to the Settings menu.
>
> Attach
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--- Comment #62 from2010-01-10 13:03:02 ---
As the author of the attached patch implementing a show/hide menu item, I would
like to say I too prefer the toolbar widget alternative (for the same reasons
Jakub gave in commment 61). I just don't kno
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--- Comment #61 from Jakub Ruzicka 2010-01-10 12:47:24 ---
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> Removing the bar completely and adding a toolbar widget like this in
> evince (http://ensc.de/evince.png) would be the perfect solution for
> me.
That is the pe
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--- Comment #60 from Maciej Pilichowski 2010-01-10 07:57:23
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> In fullscreen-mode, have the page number
> bar and backwards and forwards arrows appear only
It would be changing one hardcoded behaviour to another hardcoded behaviour. It
is not
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--- Comment #59 from mps 2010-01-10 02:08:13 ---
PPS As an extremely grateful, satisifed user of okular, how about this for an
idea: In fullscreen-mode, have the page number bar and backwards and forwards
arrows appear only when the mouse cursor is
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@ Christoph
It is already there, look below (in attachments section).
@ Jakob
Complex solutions have cost. I would much prefer to use the "ugly" checkbox for
a year now and see the
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--- Comment #54 from Christoph Feck 2010-01-09 18:10:11
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If someone would offer a patch for the check box, what would be the criteria
for acceptance/rejection?
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--- Comment #53 from Alvaro Manuel Recio Perez 2010-01-09
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Yes, I agree with you, Maciej. I think the best solution is the checkbox. What
I'm trying to offer is an alternative in case the checkbox is unacceptable (I
still think it woul
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--- Comment #52 from Maciej Pilichowski 2010-01-09 16:25:37
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> what do you think about a
> solution similar to the one adopted by Gwenview for its sidebar
> (the “Splitter Collapser”,
> http://agateau.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/gwenview-2-3-sideb
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--- Comment #51 from Martin Steigerwald 2010-01-09
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Re Comment #49: Just one more note in public. I feel being misunderstood by you
Lydia. I receive your message as if I had written KDE's bugzilla is place where
anyone can act like the
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--- Comment #49 from Lydia Pintscher 2010-01-09 14:40:44 ---
Martin you are misunderstanding. KDE's bugzilla is not the place where people
can come and act like they want to. We have a few basic guidelines how we want
to interact with each other, s
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@Jos,
You don't know in advance too much about documents users will read, but user
can see it and decide if the page numbering (by okular) is required or not. Why
not to leave this
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--- Comment #46 from Sebastian Guttenberg
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Well, it is true that you did not close the bug, but your first answer looked
simply like there is no interest in changing anything. Sorry if this impression
was wrong. I should als
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--- Comment #45 from Pino Toscano 2010-01-09 12:36:48 ---
(In reply to comment #43)
> However, you should also take into account that the first
> comment by Pino (at a stage were there was no agressive discussion at all) was
> a bit provoking.
I s
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--- Comment #43 from Sebastian Guttenberg
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at Albert: Thanks for this answer. A statement that the report is taken
seriously is all what I (can just speak for myself) was missing so far.
It is a pitty that the discussion he
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--- Comment #42 from Lydia Pintscher 2010-01-09 11:50:01 ---
Ok this stops here and now! For the next inappropriate comment posted here I
will ask for the person's bugzilla account to be closed.
Please respect the Code of Conduct (http://kde.org/co
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"if noone posts an offensive comment here in three months i'll make the
feature"
You are writing this in a public place and I just wonder what you will think of
yourself in a year or
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--- Comment #40 from Albert Astals Cid 2010-01-09 11:23:42
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You never learn, eh? From a developer point of view i have no problem commiting
this patch the request is acceptable, the problem is that last comments have
been so bad mannered that i
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--- Comment #37 from Jakub Ruzicka 2010-01-08 17:40:46 ---
All the users I know agree that "Okular would be great without the crappy
toolbar that is completely useless and can't be turned off." None of us
understands why exactly it can't be turned
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--- Comment #36 from Nicolas Bigaouette 2010-01-08
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>>> Option over option is just not the way to make a desktop-oriented interface
>>> work in small factor devices.
>> it's kind of funny how you quote "small factor devices" when this
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--- Comment #35 from Pino Toscano 2010-01-08 14:38:20 ---
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> Pino: and everyone knows the best way to help other people understand your
> point is to mock them for being too stupid to "get it".
I'm not mocking anybody; lik
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--- Comment #34 from Mike Frysinger 2010-01-08 14:13:08 ---
Pino: and everyone knows the best way to help other people understand your
point is to mock them for being too stupid to "get it". cheers!
the patch applies pretty much unchanged (tweak
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--- Comment #33 from Sebastian Guttenberg
2010-01-08 12:30:46 ---
A menu entry
"Settings-> Show Bottom Bar" (as in the patch)
perfectly fits to the other options and is by no means more confusing than to
have the option to show (or not to show) th
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--- Comment #32 from Pino Toscano 2010-01-08 12:14:13 ---
(In reply to comment #31)
> it's kind of funny how you quote "small factor devices" when this bug is about
> something that eats screen real estate and gets significantly worse on such
> dev
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--- Comment #31 from Mike Frysinger 2010-01-08 12:03:19 ---
no one is screaming. that's what caps are for. i was merely stating facts --
you cant honestly expect people to be all happy when they're told their
opinions "dont count". clearly this
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--- Comment #30 from Pino Toscano 2010-01-08 11:55:26 ---
(In reply to comment #29)
> and you wonder why people get pissed off with attitudes like yours.
Calm down, please.
> no one is asking for defaults to be changed. people are asking for *a
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--- Comment #29 from Mike Frysinger 2010-01-08 11:44:37 ---
and you wonder why people get pissed off with attitudes like yours. changing
vote counts globally doesnt affect the position. this is still the #3 desired
bug by the *users* according to
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--- Comment #28 from Brad Hards 2010-01-08 11:02:57 ---
Opinions don't really count for much.
Do you have any usability research that evaluates this issue? (there was a fair
amount of usability work - I don't remember this coming up).
Do you hav
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--- Comment #27 from Mike Frysinger 2010-01-08 03:51:04 ---
i think the cc/vote list speaks for itself. of all bugs ever filed for Okular,
this is easily the 3rd highest voted. i.e. people want the ability to make
this thing go away.
whether it
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Attitude towards the world + no distance + channel with stripped a lot of
background information can (and does) lead to twisted reception.
@Hilmera, if not lack of time, I would sta
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--- Comment #23 from Pino Toscano 2009-12-29 21:58:20 ---
(In reply to comment #22)
> But the big fat unused (yes, unused. I've literally never used it) page bar at
> the bottom is a wart. It's obviously the worst line in the poem, the character
>
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for the patch, the function argument for slotFileDirty is not "filename" but
"path" now, and the lines should be 987 995 now for the patch to apply against
1.2.88
I don't see the menu o
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Btw. why making such artificial design?
With several toolbars (parts) user could freely decide where to put toolbar A
(and if put it at all?) the same for toolbar B, C, D etc. Curren
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