RE: *Solaris support - WAS What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

2011-07-14 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Thu, 7/14/11, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: ... > > My only suggestion there is to ask around on this list for > those who have any experience with the Solaris > distributions, their construction and their support. > > - Dennis > Just to mention the little I know about Solaris: There is a

RE: *Solaris support - WAS What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

2011-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Rob's traveling, so I'll try my hand at this. (We're all new here, some are just newer than others, but someone will have had experience with the OpenOffice.org Oracle/Sun projects and may have some insight into what it takes to support Solaris distributions.) First, you're in the right place

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Wolf Halton
+1 great news, Rob.

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread imacat
That's really a great news! I've forward this message to our local community. ^_*' On 2011/07/14 06:00, Rob Weir said: > I'm sending this with my IBM "hat". > > I'm going to be speaking at the ODF Plugfest in Berlin Friday > afternoon, and will be making some announcements. I wanted you to

*Solaris support - WAS What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

2011-07-14 Thread Jerry Kemp
Hello Rob, I am interested in providing support for Solaris/Solaris distro's, to the extent of my capability. As I am new to this community, and I am assuming that you are not, how do I move forward? Please email me off line if that is that is what is appropriate. Jerry Kemp On 07/07/11 18:26,

Re: Apache CMS Workflow and a Key Question

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 14, 2011, at 3:09 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 07/14/2011 09:59 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: >> I'm top posting - sorry about that. Let's summarized some facts. >> >> - The Apache Way requires a certain process. Commit then Review OR Review >> the Commit. This is essential project governanc

Re: Apache CMS Workflow and a Key Question

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 14, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 07/14/2011 12:59 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> I'm top posting - sorry about that. Let's summarized some facts. >> >> - The Apache Way requires a certain process. Commit then Review OR >> Review the Commit. This is essential project governan

Re: Apache CMS Workflow and a Key Question

2011-07-14 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/14/2011 09:59 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher: I'm top posting - sorry about that. Let's summarized some facts. - The Apache Way requires a certain process. Commit then Review OR Review the Commit. This is essential project governance. - The approach I outlined is admittedly like what a code de

Re: Apache CMS Workflow and a Key Question

2011-07-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On 07/14/2011 12:59 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: I'm top posting - sorry about that. Let's summarized some facts. - The Apache Way requires a certain process. Commit then Review OR Review the Commit. This is essential project governance. - The approach I outlined is admittedly like what a code dev

Re: Committers and Contributors and PPMC

2011-07-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
What Dennis said. There does exist a mechanism for conducting anonymous votes among a specified group of individuals, for the *exceptionally* rare situation where a straight email vote is inappropriate. Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 12:45:17 -0700: > My impression is that votin

Re: Commiters list and the students

2011-07-14 Thread Andy Brown
Dave Fisher wrote: > > Sorry, but this is a better thread: > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTi=gBok7Q0bCfVzwxh+FZTw-o=a...@mail.gmail.com%3E > I agree Dave. It was interesting watching this unfold and see how things work. I stayed connected to

Re: Committers and Contributors and PPMC

2011-07-14 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 7/14/2011 3:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: My impression is that voting is done on the list with +1,0,-1 tabulation. That is how ballots have happened on the PPMC and it is how the ballots on the general@incubator are conducted. Correct - in virtually all cases voting is done on the appro

Re: Commiters list and the students

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:58 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> I'm delighted to see that you are submitting your iCLA. >> >> Before we get too far ahead of ourselves, I want to point out that >> registration of an iCLA is a prerequisite for b

Re: Apache CMS Workflow and a Key Question

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher
I'm top posting - sorry about that. Let's summarized some facts. - The Apache Way requires a certain process. Commit then Review OR Review the Commit. This is essential project governance. - The approach I outlined is admittedly like what a code developer would do. It is command line and text

Re: Commiters list and the students

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 14, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I'm delighted to see that you are submitting your iCLA. > > Before we get too far ahead of ourselves, I want to point out that > registration of an iCLA is a prerequisite for becoming a committer, but it is > not sufficient. There must

RE: Committers and Contributors and PPMC

2011-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
My impression is that voting is done on the list with +1,0,-1 tabulation. That is how ballots have happened on the PPMC and it is how the ballots on the general@incubator are conducted. The only case I can foresee off hand that might lead to [VOTE], if a [DISCUSS] does not demonstrate consensu

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 14, 2011, at 11:53 AM, eric b wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Le 14 juil. 11 à 20:13, Dave Fisher a écrit : >>> I did. But I thought we could contribute with patches without sign it. >> >> Yes, but if you do it that way you are not a Committer, not on the PPMC, and >> not on the Podling Status Pa

RE: Commiters list and the students

2011-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I'm delighted to see that you are submitting your iCLA. Before we get too far ahead of ourselves, I want to point out that registration of an iCLA is a prerequisite for becoming a committer, but it is not sufficient. There must also be an invitation (which only Initial Committers have automati

Re: Committers and Contributors and PPMC

2011-07-14 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:59:37 -0700: > > It is my impression (based on no experience at all) that when issues > > come to a vote on the ooo-dev list, PPMC member votes are binding and > > the votes of other project

Re: Committers and Contributors and PPMC

2011-07-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 11:59:37 -0700: > It is my impression (based on no experience at all) that when issues > come to a vote on the ooo-dev list, PPMC member votes are binding and > the votes of other project contributors and observers are not, > although I am confident

Re: Committers and Contributors and PPMC

2011-07-14 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > It is important to distinguish between contributors generally and the > subset of contributors who happen to be committers. There are technical > prerequisites and prerogatives to being a committer. > Might be good to have it on the w

Committers and Contributors and PPMC

2011-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is important to distinguish between contributors generally and the subset of contributors who happen to be committers. There are technical prerequisites and prerogatives to being a committer. Many people have been contributors to OpenOffice.org when it was under the stewardship of Sun and

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread eric b
Hi Dave, Le 14 juil. 11 à 20:13, Dave Fisher a écrit : I did. But I thought we could contribute with patches without sign it. Yes, but if you do it that way you are not a Committer, not on the PPMC, and not on the Podling Status Page. Someone with Committer karma must commit your patches

Re: Apache CMS Workflow and a Key Question

2011-07-14 Thread Kay Schenk
On 07/13/2011 10:17 PM, Arthur Buijs wrote: On 07/14/2011 01:25 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: On 07/08/2011 01:39 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: (5) When the contributor has updated content ready then they can proceed by according to (a) Non-committer - submit an svn diff as a patch. (b) Committer - perform

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread Andy Brown
eric b wrote: > I meant, when we compare : > http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html (1) with > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal (2) > We retrieve people in (1) who did not sign the ICLA as stated in (1). > > But maybe the list on the wiki is not up to date .

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:54 AM, eric b wrote: > Hi Mathias, > > Le 14 juil. 11 à 19:33, Mathias Bauer a écrit : >>> >>> In the current list, not everybody signed the ICLA, so why is it >>> important ? >> >> As I understood it, the "list of initial committers" is just a place for a >> declaratio

Initial Committers vs. Established Committers

2011-07-14 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
All individuals who listed themselves as Initial Committers on the approved proposal for the Apache OpenOffice.org incubator project are automatically eligible to become podling committers and PPMC members. Initial Committers do not require a vote at the PPMC to be invited. It is the invitatio

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread eric b
Hi Mathias, Le 14 juil. 11 à 19:33, Mathias Bauer a écrit : In the current list, not everybody signed the ICLA, so why is it important ? As I understood it, the "list of initial committers" is just a place for a declaration of intent to become a committer, while the status of being a comm

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 14, 2011, at 10:12 AM, eric b wrote: > Hi, > > > Le 14 juil. 11 à 18:50, Frank Peters a écrit : > >> Eric, >> >>> On this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html , >>> there is a list of commiters. So far, I participated to the incubator >>> project, and I thought I

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 14.07.2011 19:12, eric b wrote: > Hi, > > > Le 14 juil. 11 à 18:50, Frank Peters a écrit : > >> Eric, >> >>> On this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ >>> openofficeorg.html , >>> there is a list of commiters. So far, I participated to the incubator >>> project, and I thought I was

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread eric b
Hi, Le 14 juil. 11 à 18:50, Frank Peters a écrit : Eric, On this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ openofficeorg.html , there is a list of commiters. So far, I participated to the incubator project, and I thought I was counted in the list. are you a committer (i.e. do you have co

Re: Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread Frank Peters
Eric, On this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html , there is a list of commiters. So far, I participated to the incubator project, and I thought I was counted in the list. are you a committer (i.e. do you have commit rights)? Did I miss something ? How to be added in

Re: single repository status

2011-07-14 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 14.07.2011 18:03, Michael Stahl wrote: > one thing we could do in any case is just not convert the CWSes; put up > a read-only HG or git repo with all CWSes somewhere, then use that to > rebase the CWS onto OOO340, then apply a patch to a SVN branch based on > OOO340, then merge with SVN tru

Commiters list

2011-07-14 Thread eric b
Hi, On this page http://incubator.apache.org/projects/ openofficeorg.html , there is a list of commiters. So far, I participated to the incubator project, and I thought I was counted in the list. Did I miss something ? How to be added in the list ? Thanks in advance for any hint, Eric B

Re: single repository status

2011-07-14 Thread Michael Stahl
On 09.07.2011 07:57, Greg Stein wrote: Hi all, I borrowed some space on some ASF equipment and used the 'fetch-all-cws.sh' script to pull down all of the CWS repositories (in addition to the OOO340 and master_l10n/OOO340 repositories). This consumed 77 Gb of disk space. The fetch-all-cws.sh scr

Re: Open Office Help Wanted

2011-07-14 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Mathias, On Thursday, 2011-07-14 14:59:01 +0200, Mathias Bauer wrote: > For many use cases a simple tool that just reads the text contents in > ODF documents and compares them would be enough already, IMHO. Perhaps > we can create one as a start. As a starter there are xmlpp and xmldiff from

Re: Approaching the infrastructure team to add Archived-At headers (was: Script to generate mail archive URL from message)

2011-07-14 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Email infrastructure@ or show up on #asfinfra IRC. (I know that at least two members of root@ aren't even subscribed to infrastructure-dev@...) Eike Rathke wrote on Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 16:22:20 +0200: > Hi Daniel, > > On Wednesday, 2011-07-13 01:13:26 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > > If you'd

Approaching the infrastructure team to add Archived-At headers (was: Script to generate mail archive URL from message)

2011-07-14 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Daniel, On Wednesday, 2011-07-13 01:13:26 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > If you'd like to propose changes to the list software, approach the > Infrastructure team. We use ezmlm. Ok, "approach", does that mean to send a mail to the infrastructure-dev list, or file a JIRA issue, or...? I would

Re: Open Office Help Wanted

2011-07-14 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 13.07.2011 17:47, Rob Weir wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Harold Fennell > wrote: >> >> I would like to know more about: >> >> external diff and merge tools for Subversion that can process ODF documents >> >> Do you have other teams working on this problem, what is the expected >>

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Donald Harbison
Of course, I share this hope. Much depends on how efficiently the PPMC is able to organize and tackle the work items already discussed. Our mutual success in the Apache project is a priority. My comment was only intended to recognize the reality of the complexities involved which include fulfilling

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread eric b
Hi Rob, Le 14 juil. 11 à 00:00, Rob Weir a écrit : I'm sending this with my IBM "hat". :) I'm going to be speaking [ ...cut... ] We will be doing the following: First, we're going to contribute the standalone version of Lotus Symphony to the Apache OpenOffice.org project, under th

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Donald, On Wednesday, 2011-07-13 21:44:10 -0400, Donald Harbison wrote: > The intent here is to shift the primary development focus to Apache > OpenOffice over time. I appreciate. I hope the time in "over time" will be radically shortened ;-) Eike -- PGP/OpenPGP/GnuPG encrypted mail pre

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Rob, The contribution of the Symphony code is a great move. Eike -- PGP/OpenPGP/GnuPG encrypted mail preferred in all private communication. Key ID: 0x293C05FD - 997A 4C60 CE41 0149 0DB3 9E96 2F1A D073 293C 05FD pgpziT9X0MSuS.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Malte Timmermann
Hi Erik, thanks for clarifications :) Some questions below... On 14.07.2011 05:09, Yong Lin Ma wrote: ... We are willing to contribute the whole Symphony to community. The code would be available to the community. (The C++ part of Symphony, also the counterpart of OO.o in Symphony). Maybe I

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Malte Timmermann
Hi Rob, this is really interesting and great news! :) Some comments inline... On 14.07.2011 00:00, Rob Weir wrote: > ... However, we at IBM have not been exemplary community members when it came to OpenOffice.org. ;) > .. First, we're going to contribute the standalone version of Lotus Sym

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Ian Lynch
On 14 July 2011 08:31, Graham Lauder wrote: Rob, > > The smile on my dial right now would dazzle a blind man. This has been > a fervent wish of mine since Symphony launched (As any IBM staffer who > was unfortunate enough to be cornered by me at whatever conf we both > happen to be attending, wi

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Graham Lauder
On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 00:00 +0200, Rob Weir wrote: > I'm sending this with my IBM "hat". > I'm going to be speaking at the ODF Plugfest in Berlin Friday > afternoon, and will be making some announcements. I wanted you to > hear this first, before anyone else knows. Rob, The smile on my dial rig

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-14 Thread Rolf Eder
Am 14.07.2011 um 05:09 schrieb Yong Lin Ma: > We are willing to contribute the whole Symphony to community. Great news! Kudos to you, Rob and the IBM team! > By far, we should focus on getting the first Apache OpenOffice release > done. As Marcus (OOo) said: Let's don't rush things. First a 3.