Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-28 Thread Andor E
I'm working on a local copy. So far I haven't changed much code in the extension. The extender is a separate project, because it could be be used without the extension. Given time I'm planning to add a better code editor. But first I have to overcome some idiotic problems in Eclipse. Greetings

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-28 Thread Carl Marcum
On 09/28/2011 01:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Carl Marcumcmar...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, I wanted to gauge the interest in including Groovy [1] as a scripting language. For those not familiar, Groovy is a dynamic language for the JVM that includes

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Andor E
Hi, I'm currently working on updating the Groovy for OpenOffice.org extension. I already have included the latest Groovy library. Currently I'm writing an extender, that allows to access functions and properties without imports and casts. I still have to overcome a few stumbling blocks, but I hope

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote: On 09/26/2011 10:31 PM, Rob Weir wrote: snip As far as I can tell (and I may be wrong) the way to think of it is like this: 1) When we use a binary in the project (a 3rd party library) then having it be ALv2 or

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 9/27/2011 8:27 AM, Rob Weir wrote: ...snip... I think the difference between binary and source use in AOOo is important. When we bring source into the project we are inviting other project members, as well as our downstream consumers, to invest their own time into that code base, to maintain

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Hello; --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Shane Curcuru wrote: .. I.e. there are cases where Apache projects may want to include Category-B (EPL, CPL, MPL, etc.) tools within a distribution.  This is permitted in binary form, but not source form. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but dmake as we have

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: Hello; --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Shane Curcuru wrote: .. I.e. there are cases where Apache projects may want to include Category-B (EPL, CPL, MPL, etc.) tools within a distribution.  This is permitted in binary form,

dmake licensing issues again (was Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language)

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Hello; --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Shane Curcuru wrote: .. I.e. there are cases where Apache projects may want to include Category-B (EPL, CPL, MPL, etc.) tools within a distribution.  This is permitted in binary form, but not

RE: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
distribution alone does not raise license-compatibility issues. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Pedro F. Giffuni [mailto:giffu...@tutopia.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 09:25 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

RE: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language [ ... ] Concerning the external sources that we still carry: would source tarballs of MPL/LGPL stuff be considered binary form? This is mostly what we do today so it would solve most of our issues (gettext

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
, September 27, 2011 09:25 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language [ ... ] Concerning the external sources that we still carry: would source tarballs of MPL/LGPL stuff be considered binary form? This is mostly what we do today so

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... Another point that Rob brought would be if we need a SGA to add the Groovy (or other) extension. I would think an SGA is a rather extreme thing to require for extensions: we wouldn't require that if we want to include

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: --- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... Another point that Rob brought would be if we need a SGA to add the Groovy (or other) extension. I would think an SGA is a rather extreme thing to

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/27/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: ... Bringing it into SVN is easy.  Making it into a release is another question.  To do that requires going through the IP Clearance process. Yes, I was obviously referring to the legal requirements. I'm willing to debate it for

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Carl Marcum
Hi, On 09/27/2011 03:02 AM, Andor E wrote: Hi, I'm currently working on updating the Groovy for OpenOffice.org extension. I already have included the latest Groovy library. Currently I'm writing an extender, that allows to access functions and properties without imports and casts. I still have

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Carl Marcum
On 09/27/2011 06:07 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, i have to confess that i have completely missed this extension until today. It shows again the power that we have to support scripting languages that are based on the JVM. I like it. I think a good selection of scripting options for the

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, I wanted to gauge the interest in including Groovy [1] as a scripting language. For those not familiar, Groovy is a dynamic language for the JVM that includes features like closures, builders, and dynamic

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.orgwrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Carl Marcum cmar...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, I wanted to gauge the interest in including Groovy [1] as a scripting language. For those not familiar, Groovy is a dynamic

[EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-26 Thread Carl Marcum
Hi all, I wanted to gauge the interest in including Groovy [1] as a scripting language. For those not familiar, Groovy is a dynamic language for the JVM that includes features like closures, builders, and dynamic typing. There is currently a Groovy For OpenOffice extension [2] for this

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-26 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; I like it. I've been thinking that we should campaign moving opensource extensions to apache-extras, as it could make things easier for maintainers if they don't want to sign an ICLA. Of course I won't complain if you think it's better to include this directly. Pedro. On Mon, 26 Sep 2011

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-26 Thread Carl Marcum
On 09/26/2011 10:31 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Carl Marcumcmar...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, I wanted to gauge the interest in including Groovy [1] as a scripting language. For those not familiar, Groovy is a dynamic language for the JVM that includes features like

Re: [EXT][DISCUSS] Including Groovy as a scripting language

2011-09-26 Thread Carl Marcum
On 09/26/2011 10:41 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; I like it. I've been thinking that we should campaign moving opensource extensions to apache-extras, as it could make things easier for maintainers if they don't want to sign an ICLA. Of course I won't complain if you think it's better to