Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-06 Thread Donald Whytock
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: OpenOffice is probably a special case wrt patents and that's a special strength behind the Apache License so I think it's good in case of big contributions (like IBM's) to have such a document but otherwise I don't

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: OpenOffice is probably a special case wrt patents and that's a special strength behind the Apache License so I think it's good in case of big

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I don't think we can give an answer set in stone.  Again, section 5 of the Apache License is clear enough. Pedro.

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-06 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: --- On Tue, 9/6/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: So I don't think we can give an answer set in stone. Again, section 5 of the Apache License is clear enough.

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-04 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Rob, On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 20:11:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: So I think we take this on a case-by-case basis.  Personally, I don't have problems with a small patch of a few lines where the author has clearly expressed they are contributing it under ALv2.  But a patch of 10,000 lines

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: Hi Rob, On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 20:11:01 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: So I think we take this on a case-by-case basis.  Personally, I don't have problems with a small patch of a few lines where the author has clearly expressed

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-09-04 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
Ahh.. found it! The problem is solved in section 5 of the Apache License: ___ 5. Submission of Contributions. Unless You explicitly state otherwise, any Contribution intentionally submitted for inclusion in the Work by You to the Licensor shall be under the terms and conditions of this

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-08-31 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi, I'm going to warm this up, as legal seems to have no definite opinion on it and effectively suggests the project has to establish its process and decide how it will handle larger contributions. See

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-08-31 Thread Joe Schaefer
, August 31, 2011 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7 Hi, I'm going to warm this up, as legal seems to have no definite opinion on it and effectively suggests the project has to establish its process and decide how it will handle larger contributions. See http://mail-archives.apache.org

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-08-31 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Eike Rathke o...@erack.de wrote: Hi, I'm going to warm this up, as legal seems to have no definite opinion on it and effectively suggests the project has to establish its process and decide how it will handle larger contributions. See

Re: [legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-08-31 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi Rob, On Wednesday, 2011-08-31 16:06:48 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: Will AOOo accept code contributions under AL2, be it on the mailing list, as JIRA attachment, or otherwise with consent of the original author, without the author having signed an iCLA? My position on this: yes, it

[legal] ICLA paragraph 7

2011-08-12 Thread Michael Stahl
hi Apache mentors, i've got a question as to what extent an ICLA from the copyright holder is required for code contributions. a volunteer who is currently working in GSoC over at LibreOffice (who has not signed an Apache ICLA) has given me permission to contribute a bunch of makefiles that