Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-10 Thread Armin Le Grand
Am 09.08.2011 22:20, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 09.08.2011 20:49, Armin Le Grand wrote: ... Forgot one point: We are not talking about stopping support for something like PDF/A where readability is guaranteed for years/decades. We are talking about wildly, unplanned grown old binary filter

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-09 Thread Armin Le Grand
Am 06.08.2011 19:45, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: What does this show? Others behave much worse as we would do. If the first AOO release will be the last with binfilters and we assume a runnalble/installable state of 5-10 years (depending on OS, unforseeable progress, etc...) this will be fine

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-09 Thread Armin Le Grand
Am 06.08.2011 19:45, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: What does this show? Others behave much worse as we would do. If the first AOO release will be the last with binfilters and we assume a runnalble/installable state of 5-10 years (depending on OS, unforseeable progress, etc...) this will be fine

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-08 Thread Michael Stahl
On 06.08.2011 19:45, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: With regard to consumption versus production, I agree that it is easy to stop supporting production when no native consumers are likely to be available any longer and the OpenOffice.org document model evolves to support expanded functionality of

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-07 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 08/06/2011 02:45 PM, schrieb Eric Hoch: Hi Armin, Am Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:56:45 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 22:22, schrieb Eric Hoch: Hi Armin, Am Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:01:52 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 18:47, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: The only problem with

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-06 Thread Armin Le Grand
Am 05.08.2011 22:22, schrieb Eric Hoch: Hi Armin, Am Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:01:52 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 18:47, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: The only problem with [2] is that it assumes conversion is possible/permissible. That is not always the case. Now, I do not know there

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-06 Thread Eric Hoch
Hi Armin, Am Sat, 06 Aug 2011 13:56:45 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 22:22, schrieb Eric Hoch: Hi Armin, Am Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:01:52 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 18:47, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: The only problem with [2] is that it assumes conversion is

RE: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-06 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 04:57 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn) Am 05.08.2011 22:22, schrieb Eric Hoch: Hi Armin, Am Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:01:52 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 18:47, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: The only problem

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 05.08.2011 13:33, Armin Le Grand wrote: [1] Do the not too difficult step of making binfilter independent from the rest by statically linking, keep it on the current version. Use the resulting binary module for future versions. As long as binfilter runs in the same process, you can't

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-05 Thread Armin Le Grand
Hi Mathias, Am 05.08.2011 16:25, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 05.08.2011 13:33, Armin Le Grand wrote: [1] Do the not too difficult step of making binfilter independent from the rest by statically linking, keep it on the current version. Use the resulting binary module for future

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-05 Thread Mathias Bauer
On 05.08.2011 17:21, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Mathias, Am 05.08.2011 16:25, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 05.08.2011 13:33, Armin Le Grand wrote: [1] Do the not too difficult step of making binfilter independent from the rest by statically linking, keep it on the current version. Use

RE: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
...@me.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 04:34 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn) Hi *, Binfilter can pretty simply be linked statically against the remaining dependencies (tools and below) and just stay there as a binary module. It already

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-05 Thread Armin Le Grand
Am 05.08.2011 18:15, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 05.08.2011 17:21, Armin Le Grand wrote: Hi Mathias, Am 05.08.2011 16:25, schrieb Mathias Bauer: On 05.08.2011 13:33, Armin Le Grand wrote: [1] Do the not too difficult step of making binfilter independent from the rest by statically

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-05 Thread Marcus (OOo)
: Friday, August 05, 2011 04:34 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn) Hi *, Binfilter can pretty simply be linked statically against the remaining dependencies (tools and below) and just stay there as a binary module. It already is a UNO API based module

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-05 Thread Eric Hoch
Hi Armin, Am Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:01:52 +0200 schrieb Armin Le Grand: Am 05.08.2011 18:47, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: The only problem with [2] is that it assumes conversion is possible/permissible. That is not always the case. Now, I do not know there is anyone who has that problem and

binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I believe LibreOffice is already taking action on binfilter, and it would be useful to see if we can match their approach. Also, I think there was (again on LibreOffice) a technical discussion on simplifying the dependencies. This was initially by having redundancy, with the idea that a

Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-03 Thread eric b
Le 3 août 11 à 17:49, Dennis E. Hamilton a écrit : I believe LibreOffice is already taking action on binfilter, and it would be useful to see if we can match their approach. Also, I think there was (again on LibreOffice) a technical discussion on simplifying the dependencies. I did a

RE: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn)

2011-08-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
up with RTF seems to be a serious challenge). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Malte Timmermann [mailto:malte_timmerm...@gmx.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:24 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: binfilter (was RE: OOO340 to svn) Binfilter will be good for many