Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Jason Etheridge
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 5:11 PM, Kathy Lussier wrote: > I'm curious to know which pop-ups are suppressed using the "Suppress > popup-dialogs during check-in." Is it all pop-ups (including holds and > transit, which we really need to see) or just the missing, lost, and claims > returned pop-ups th

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread McCanna, Terran
>> MassLNC had recently come up with some development requirements >> (http://masslnc.cwmars.org/node/2764) that would give Evergreen sites more >> granular control over which alerts display.<< Great! I add my vote to revisiting that once the web client is complete. Terran McCanna PINES Pr

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Holly Brennan
Yes, I can see why "Lost" and "Missing" probably wouldn't need an alert in our workflow either. Our library staff need and use alerts for Lost and Missing. If something has been lost and is now returned, we need to decide whether we will refund the patron and put the item back into circ

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Kathy Lussier
I'm curious to know which pop-ups are suppressed using the "Suppress popup-dialogs during check-in." Is it all pop-ups (including holds and transit, which we really need to see) or just the missing, lost, and claims returned pop-ups that seem unnecessary to most of the users here in MA? Libr

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread McCanna, Terran
Yes, I can see why "Lost" and "Missing" probably wouldn't need an alert in our workflow either. Perhaps future development down the road could use color coding instead of popup alerts on the check-in screen for some of these types of alerts that don't require staff action? Something to think abo

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Ruth Frasur
The web client will fix EVERYTHING!! Even the kitchen sink (if you have a kitchen sink). On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Betty Massie wrote: > Response # 2 from Georgia Pines -- ever the team player > > -Original Message- > From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mai

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Betty Massie
Response # 3, which seems slightly “catty” to me… From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ruth Frasur Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 4:28 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Item

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Betty Massie
Response # 2 from Georgia Pines -- ever the team player -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of McCanna, Terran Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 4:12 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Buzzy Nielsen
There are a few popups that we've deemed unnecessary. For instance, there's a pop up that appears at checkin for a "bad status", requiring staff to affirm that they do indeed want to check in the item. Two of those statuses are "Lost" and "Missing". Our staff

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Ruth Frasur
The alerts, in my experience (which is a fair amount) are important. There is an awful lot of information that is pulled from the db when items are checked in (as a default). I haven't tried this, but I have to imagine that only displaying certain, essential columns should speed the process up (n

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Jason Etheridge
> It may be time to rethink this behavior from the ground-up, or at the > very least, better document it (I had forgotten all about that library > setting, despite having wrote it, and I bet a lot of folk would love > to have it enabled). For those wanting to experiment, try enabling both the "Sup

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread McCanna, Terran
Most of those alerts are important, are they not? It's been a little while, but when I've covered Circ and done check-ins, I don't recall getting anything that I regarded as an unnecessary alert - I only recall things that required some sort of staff action such as routing, printing hold slips,

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Jason Etheridge
> Evergreen has lots of alerts - we tracked them for a week once. One thing I want to mention is that it was an intentional design decision that certain workflows got "halted" by pop-up alerts, and there was a great fear of users accidentally "scanning through" an alert without noticing. It seems

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Items not checking in?

2014-04-14 Thread Vickie Turcotte
Hello all, I usually just lurk here, I learn a lot of things by following the discussions. But I wanted to speak up, as one of those front line EG users (after looking up PEBKAC). Circ is very busy, as already mentioned. They need to go fast to get the work done. Evergreen is slow. There may b

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] speaking of testing.. (Was Re: browser client update for 2014-04-11)

2014-04-14 Thread Ruth Frasur
Awesome! On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 1:04 PM, McCanna, Terran < tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote: > Nice! > > > Terran McCanna > PINES Program Manager > Georgia Public Library Service > 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 > Atlanta, GA 30345 > 404-235-7138 > tmcca...@georgialibraries.org > > - Ori

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] speaking of testing.. (Was Re: browser client update for 2014-04-11)

2014-04-14 Thread McCanna, Terran
Nice! Terran McCanna PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30345 404-235-7138 tmcca...@georgialibraries.org - Original Message - From: "Bill Erickson" To: "Evergreen Discussion Group" Cc: "Evergreen Development Discussion

[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] speaking of testing.. (Was Re: [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11)

2014-04-14 Thread Bill Erickson
Those of you who connected my dev server today just unwittingly performed the first real distributed OpenSRF WebSockets test. We had 25 unique visitors during the 11am (EST) hour, with about 10 active at any given time, each with their own WebSockets connection, using a 5 minute idle timeout. Eve

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11

2014-04-14 Thread Bill Erickson
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 12:46 PM, McCanna, Terran < tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote: > I'm unable to login with the default browser, but I was able to log in > fine with the Firefox app (I'm using a Galaxy Note II running Android 4.3). > The number of columns doesn't display well, but once I

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11

2014-04-14 Thread McCanna, Terran
I'm unable to login with the default browser, but I was able to log in fine with the Firefox app (I'm using a Galaxy Note II running Android 4.3). The number of columns doesn't display well, but once I hid some of them it worked well. Sorting and selecting/unselecting work great, even copy and p

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11

2014-04-14 Thread Bill Erickson
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM, McCanna, Terran < tmcca...@georgialibraries.org> wrote: > I agree with Rogan, the previous one was more attractive but this is more > functional. I think the paging controls, the sorting, and the > selecting/unselecting are all very intuitive. > > The only thing I

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11

2014-04-14 Thread McCanna, Terran
I agree with Rogan, the previous one was more attractive but this is more functional. I think the paging controls, the sorting, and the selecting/unselecting are all very intuitive. The only thing I see so far that will throw off users is that when I highlight a bit of text in preparation for c

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11

2014-04-14 Thread Bill Erickson
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Rogan Hamby wrote: > Aesthetically I liked the old grids but looking at these I think they will > be superior in terms of function. The adjusting the column width works > fairly intuitively and cleanly, which will be very important on the smaller > displays. > T

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11

2014-04-14 Thread Rogan Hamby
Aesthetically I liked the old grids but looking at these I think they will be superior in terms of function. The adjusting the column width works fairly intuitively and cleanly, which will be very important on the smaller displays. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Bill Erickson wrote: > Well,

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11

2014-04-14 Thread Bill Erickson
Well, I've finally installed a valid cert on my test server, so it's possible to log in once again (now with secure WebSockets, yay). After login, go to Patron Search and perform a search. The search results are using the new grid. https://bill-dev2.esilibrary.com/eg/staff/login?ws=BR1-jupiter

Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] [OPEN-ILS-DEV] browser client update for 2014-04-11

2014-04-14 Thread McCanna, Terran
Thanks, Bill! I'm excited to see the grid design and looking forward to seeing how the status bar will work. Terran McCanna PINES Program Manager Georgia Public Library Service 1800 Century Place, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30345 404-235-7138 tmcca...@georgialibraries.org - Original Mess