Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Michał Droździewicz
S.J.Chun pisze: Are you sure on disabling crypt at debian side? For me, it seems that you turned off crypt at centos(which is turned off by default), and debian, you did not(which might be turned on by default?) Crypt in server settings or in client settings? Where can I check this setting? I

[OpenAFS] Re: Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread S.J.Chun
For debian, /etc/openafs/afs.conf.client in case you installed with package. There you can find AFS_CRYPT and which should be false to make crypt off - Original Message - From: Michał Droździewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cc: OpenAFS-Info openafs-info@openafs.org Sent: 08-04-08

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Michał Droździewicz
S.J.Chun pisze: For debian, /etc/openafs/afs.conf.client in case you installed with package. There you can find AFS_CRYPT and which should be false to make crypt off On CentOS only options for AFS Client (located in /etc/sysconfig/openafs) are: AFSD_ARGS=-afsdb -fakestat On Debian in

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Michał Droździewicz
S.J.Chun pisze: For debian, /etc/openafs/afs.conf.client in case you installed with package. There you can find AFS_CRYPT and which should be false to make crypt off With crypt disabled I get major speedup (25-31MiB/s) and this is very similiar to the CentOS results. So this mistery is

[OpenAFS] Re: Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread S.J.Chun
I don't know why on is default; maybe for security reason? Our client using OpenAFS for service, does not use this feature. - Original Message - From: Michał Droździewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cc: OpenAFS-Info openafs-info@openafs.org Sent: 08-04-08 18:01:01 Subject: Re:

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Michał Droździewicz wrote: Is AFS_CRYPT really that needed that debian is turning this _ON_ by default? One of the benefits that AFS provides over other file systems is privacy. For that you need crypt to be on. The Windows client defaults to use of encrypted sessions as well. smime.p7s

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Lars Schimmer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michał Droździewicz wrote: Jeffrey Altman pisze: Is AFS_CRYPT really that needed that debian is turning this _ON_ by default? One of the benefits that AFS provides over other file systems is privacy. For that you need crypt to be on. The

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MichaÅ, Droździewicz wrote: Is AFS_CRYPT really that needed that debian is turning this _ON_ by default? One of the benefits that AFS provides over other file systems is privacy. For that you need crypt to be on. The Windows client defaults to use

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Christopher D. Clausen wrote: I think the better question is why CentOS has it _OFF_ by default. Packages should fail safe by being in the safest operating mode by default. Agreed but then you get the folks who install AFS and perform some tests and say NFS is 20 times faster, AFS sucks.

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Jeffrey Altman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher D. Clausen wrote: I think the better question is why CentOS has it _OFF_ by default. Packages should fail safe by being in the safest operating mode by default. Agreed but then you get the folks who install AFS and perform some tests and

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Michał Droździewicz
Jeffrey Altman pisze: Is AFS_CRYPT really that needed that debian is turning this _ON_ by default? One of the benefits that AFS provides over other file systems is privacy. For that you need crypt to be on. The Windows client defaults to use of encrypted sessions as well. Ok, but if I'll

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Wesley Chow
Jeffrey Altman wrote: Christopher D. Clausen wrote: I think the better question is why CentOS has it _OFF_ by default. Packages should fail safe by being in the safest operating mode by default. Agreed but then you get the folks who install AFS and perform some tests and say NFS is 20

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Harald Barth
What if OpenSSH left encryption turned off by default so people could benchmark it against FTP? According to http://www.globus.org/security/overview.html that's exactly what the globus versions of the ssh stuff does: As default turn encryption off in the gsi-ssh so it does not get in the way

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Wesley Chow
Does turning crypt off mean data in transit can be read *and* tampered with? Or read, but still safe from tampering? Also, does this imply that a server participating in the public directory is trusting that all clients are using encryption to connect to it? Is there a way for a server to

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Wesley Chow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does turning crypt off mean data in transit can be read *and* tampered with? Or read, but still safe from tampering? Also, does this imply that a server participating in the public directory is trusting that all clients are using encryption to connect to

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Harald Barth wrote: But has anyone here on this list experimented with HW-acceleration for encryption? It might be a good investment for a server (I hope that my clients should cope). I doubt you will find a hw engine engine for fcrypt. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],Christopher D. Clausen writes: setcrypt off command before running benchmarks. What if OpenSSH left encryption turned off by default so people could benchmark it against FTP? openssh sucks. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Wesley Chow wrote: Does turning crypt off mean data in transit can be read *and* tampered with? Or read, but still safe from tampering? Also, does this imply that a server participating in the public directory is trusting that all clients are using encryption to connect to it? Is there a way

[OpenAFS] maildir on openafs

2008-04-08 Thread David Bear
I seem to distantly recall some discussion about storing maildir directories on openafs, but I don't remember if it was safe, discouraged, or otherwise problematic. Any one see problems with putting maildir in afs? -- David Bear College of Public Programs at ASU 602-464-0424

Re: [OpenAFS] strange issue with windows client

2008-04-08 Thread Jeffrey Altman
David Bear wrote: no debug info yet, I'm hoping to avoid that... Heres the system info. Windows XP Pro Openafs 1.5.34 Kerb for windows 3.2 user lisa can go most everyone in afs that she has access to except her home directory. She can descend paths that are controlled by acls created by me.

Re: [OpenAFS] maildir on openafs

2008-04-08 Thread Robert Banz
On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:16 AM, Christopher D. Clausen wrote: David Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to distantly recall some discussion about storing maildir directories on openafs, but I don't remember if it was safe, discouraged, or otherwise problematic. Any one see problems with putting

Re: [OpenAFS] maildir on openafs

2008-04-08 Thread Russ Allbery
David Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to distantly recall some discussion about storing maildir directories on openafs, but I don't remember if it was safe, discouraged, or otherwise problematic. Any one see problems with putting maildir in afs? The maildir protocol requires

Re: [OpenAFS] Speed difference between OpenAFS 1.4.x on Debian and CentOS

2008-04-08 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Jeffrey Altman wrote: Harald Barth wrote: But has anyone here on this list experimented with HW-acceleration for encryption? It might be a good investment for a server (I hope that my clients should cope). I doubt you will find a hw engine engine for fcrypt. I agree, but what kind of

Re: [OpenAFS] maildir on openafs

2008-04-08 Thread Robert Banz
On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:49 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: David Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to distantly recall some discussion about storing maildir directories on openafs, but I don't remember if it was safe, discouraged, or otherwise problematic. Any one see problems with putting

Re: [OpenAFS] maildir on openafs

2008-04-08 Thread Robert Banz
http://www.nofocus.org/maildir/ If you're interested. The patches are a little out of date, but I could pull the most up-to-date ones and put them up there if there's interest. Personally, I've abandoned them and switched to Cyrus. -rob On Apr 8, 2008, at 9:25 AM, Robert Banz wrote:

[OpenAFS] Re: maildir on openafs [new faq entry]

2008-04-08 Thread Adam Megacz
David Bear [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I seem to distantly recall some discussion about storing maildir directories on openafs, but I don't remember if it was safe, discouraged, or otherwise problematic. Any one see problems with putting maildir in afs? HCoop is doing this with courier, and it