Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Slightly unrelated question

2011-01-28 Thread Sergio Gelato
* Andrew Deason [2011-01-27 09:53:47 -0600]: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:15:02 +0100 (CET) > Harald Barth wrote: > > > > No Windows AD/KDC planned, but Windows clients integration with > > > standard KDC and possibly OpenAFS will be important. > > > > Good luck with not needing an AD, but I think b

[OpenAFS] Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Jeff Blaine
OpenAFS 1.4.11 on Solaris 10 SPARC servers with *ZFS* vice partitions The last time we brought our fileservers down (cleanly, according to "shutdown" info via bos status), it struck me as odd that salvages were needed once it came up. I sort of brushed it off. We've done it again, and the same

[OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:10:38 -0500 Jeff Blaine wrote: > The last time we brought our fileservers down (cleanly, according to > "shutdown" info via bos status), it struck me as odd that salvages > were needed once it came up. I sort of brushed it off. As in, it salvaged everything automatically

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Jeff Blaine
On 1/28/2011 12:33 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:10:38 -0500 Jeff Blaine wrote: The last time we brought our fileservers down (cleanly, according to "shutdown" info via bos status), it struck me as odd that salvages were needed once it came up. I sort of brushed it off. As

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Jeff Blaine
Examples from FileLog.old: Fri Jan 28 10:02:48 2011 VAttachVolume: volume /vicepf/V2023864046.vol needs to be salvaged; not attached. Fri Jan 28 10:02:49 2011 VAttachVolume: volume salvage flag is ON for /vicepa//V2023886583.vol; volume needs salvage Examples from SalvageLog old pretty much

[OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:17:31 -0500 Jeff Blaine wrote: > Examples from FileLog.old: > > Fri Jan 28 10:02:48 2011 VAttachVolume: volume /vicepf/V2023864046.vol > needs to be salvaged; not attached. This just says that the fileserver didn't clear the "I'm using this volume" flag in the header; we

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Jeff Blaine
Do you have the FileLog from that shutdown? No, it was cycled out by me salvaging :| And there isn't anything in play that would cause an old version of the vice partition or something weird like that, is there? (ZFS snapshots, liveupgrade misconfiguration, etc) No. _

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Derrick Brashear
did shutdown perchance take 30min? Derrick On Jan 28, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote: >> Do you have the FileLog from that shutdown? > > No, it was cycled out by me salvaging :| > >> And there isn't anything in play that would cause an old version of the >> vice partition or something w

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Jeff Blaine
On 1/28/2011 1:52 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote: did shutdown perchance take 30min? Yes. I found this in BosLog.old just now: Wed Jan 26 12:28:13 2011: upclientetc exited on signal 15 Wed Jan 26 12:28:13 2011: upclientbin exited on signal 15 Wed Jan 26 12:28:24 2011: fs:vol exited on signal 15 W

[OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:52:02 -0500 Derrick Brashear wrote: > did shutdown perchance take 30min? BosLog would still indicate a force kill after 30 mins. What are all of the BosLog entries mentioning the fileserver? (assuming bosserver hasn't been restarted enough times to rotate that away) -- A

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Derrick Brashear
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Jeff Blaine wrote: > On 1/28/2011 1:52 PM, Derrick Brashear wrote: >> >> did shutdown perchance take 30min? > > Yes.  I found this in BosLog.old just now: > > Wed Jan 26 12:28:13 2011: upclientetc exited on signal 15 > Wed Jan 26 12:28:13 2011: upclientbin exited o

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Slightly unrelated question

2011-01-28 Thread Marc Dionne
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Andrew Deason wrote: > Integration with the Windows login system I believe is almost always > done via AD. I think it's possible to not use AD if someone wrote a > Kerberos pGina plugin (or maybe Samba, but that's just replacing AD, not > getting rid of its role),

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Slightly unrelated question

2011-01-28 Thread omalleys
Quoting Marc Dionne : On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Andrew Deason wrote: Integration with the Windows login system I believe is almost always done via AD. I think it's possible to not use AD if someone wrote a Kerberos pGina plugin (or maybe Samba, but that's just replacing AD, not gettin

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Slightly unrelated question

2011-01-28 Thread omalleys
Quoting omall...@msu.edu: Quoting Marc Dionne : On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Andrew Deason wrote: Integration with the Windows login system I believe is almost always done via AD. I think it's possible to not use AD if someone wrote a Kerberos pGina plugin (or maybe Samba, but that's j

[OpenAFS] calculating memory

2011-01-28 Thread Gary Gatling
Hello, I am in charge of several afs servers in our college. Right now there are 5 afs servers running on 5 SPARC based servers. We are ditching Solaris since it sucks so bad and are going to move to Linux VM's running inside of VMware. I was asked how much disk and memory we would need fo

[OpenAFS] Re: Slightly unrelated question

2011-01-28 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:49:11 -0500 omall...@msu.edu wrote: > It was probably pgina, www.pgina.org or based on that project as it > did have AFS support. It works well with ldap. I didn't test the afs > module as we had some policies for people who didnt have AFS in place. > The afs code, iirc was

[OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.5.78 on Windows 7 (64 bit), system error 5

2011-01-28 Thread John Tang Boyland
Another semester and more Windows 7 problems. These are all problems that happen even after a reboot. Today's flavor: Network Identity Manager can get kerberos tickets but not AFS tickets. There's a long pause and then it says it couldn't get tickets. On the Network and Sharing Center Control P

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS 1.5.78 on Windows 7 (64 bit), system error 5

2011-01-28 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Access Denied on \\AFS would imply that there is an actual machine on the network called AFS On 1/28/2011 3:32 PM, John Tang Boyland wrote: > Another semester and more Windows 7 problems. These are all problems > that happen even after a reboot. Today's flavor: > > Network Identity Manager can

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: Slightly unrelated question

2011-01-28 Thread Craig Huckabee
On 1/28/11 2:49 PM, omall...@msu.edu wrote: Quoting Marc Dionne : On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Andrew Deason wrote: Integration with the Windows login system I believe is almost always done via AD. I think it's possible to not use AD if someone wrote a Kerberos pGina plugin (or maybe Sam

Re: [OpenAFS] Need volume state / fileserver / salvage knowledge

2011-01-28 Thread Patricia O'Reilly
Was there any type of maintenance being done on the system? ZFS takes a snapshot of the filesystem prior to maintenance, then reverts back to that snapshot after the maintenance is complete. That means if your server was running when the initial snapshot was taken, the SALVAGE.fs file was in you

[OpenAFS] AFS/NFS translator clients cause translator server to inaccessible

2011-01-28 Thread Karen Eldredge
I would like some help with the AFS/NFS Translator. We have an AFS/NFS translator server running OpenAFS 1.5.77 on SLES 11 no SP. This translator is an guest in an VMware environment. When the translator server is rebooted the translator clients can cause the translator server to be inaccessibl

[OpenAFS] Re: AFS/NFS translator clients cause translator server to inaccessible

2011-01-28 Thread Andrew Deason
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:03:57 -0700 Karen Eldredge wrote: > Does this make sense? Has anyone else seen this behavior? Please let > me know which logs you would like to see and anything else I can do to > help with the debugging. We do have a vmcore file if you are > interested. The last messag

Re: [OpenAFS] calculating memory

2011-01-28 Thread Simon Wilkinson
On 28 Jan 2011, at 20:24, Gary Gatling wrote: I am in charge of several afs servers in our college. Right now there are 5 afs servers running on 5 SPARC based servers. We are ditching Solaris since it sucks so bad and are going to move to Linux VM's running inside of VMware. Firstly, I w

Re: [OpenAFS] Re: AFS/NFS translator clients cause translator server to inaccessible

2011-01-28 Thread Derrick Brashear
What he said. Also, are any of your clients NFSv3? Derrick On Jan 28, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 16:03:57 -0700 > Karen Eldredge wrote: > >> Does this make sense? Has anyone else seen this behavior? Please let >> me know which logs you would like to see an

Re: [OpenAFS] calculating memory

2011-01-28 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 15:24, Simon Wilkinson wrote: > > On 28 Jan 2011, at 20:24, Gary Gatling wrote: > >> I am in charge of several afs servers in our college. Right now there are >> 5 afs servers running on 5 SPARC based servers. We are ditching Solaris >> since it sucks so bad and are going t

Re: [OpenAFS] calculating memory

2011-01-28 Thread Jason Edgecombe
On 01/28/2011 03:24 PM, Gary Gatling wrote: Hello, I am in charge of several afs servers in our college. Right now there are 5 afs servers running on 5 SPARC based servers. We are ditching Solaris since it sucks so bad and are going to move to Linux VM's running inside of VMware. I was as

Re: [OpenAFS] calculating memory

2011-01-28 Thread Gary Gatling
Hi Guys. Thanks for all the good suggestions so far. Just to clarify a couple of points if it matters. I am going to use RHEL 6 for the fileserver. I have a test VM up and working with openafs 1.4.14 to start with. Seems to work ok with ext4. The version of VMware we are using is VMware ESX.

Re: [OpenAFS] calculating memory

2011-01-28 Thread Thomas Kula
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:38:37PM -0500, Gary Gatling wrote: > [...] > I gather real servers aren't an option `cause management really > likes moving most everything into VMware. We already moved all our > license and web servers into VMware and we have some other weird > servers working in it al

Re: [OpenAFS] calculating memory

2011-01-28 Thread Andy Cobaugh
On 2011-01-28 at 22:38, Gary Gatling ( gsgat...@eos.ncsu.edu ) said: I am going to use RHEL 6 for the fileserver. I have a test VM up and working with openafs 1.4.14 to start with. Seems to work ok with ext4. The version of VMware we are using is VMware ESX. We pay full price for that. I think