Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-10-03 Thread Christof Hanke
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 22:54:25 schrieb Andrew Deason: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:01:08 +0200 > > Christof Hanke wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 21:30:23 schrieb Andrew Deason: > > > And in particular, NTFS and other journalled filesystems have the > > > advantage of a journal, and pro

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-21 Thread Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR)
In message <2f81c559c509715a17e57...@lysithea.fac.cs.cmu.edu>,Jeffrey Hutzelman writes: >No; it's much worse than that. Suppose you upgrade to a new version of >OpenAFS and find there's a serious bug in the fileserver, or ubik, or rx. >Or you missed some "crucial" process step and so it "wasn't O

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-21 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
--On Friday, June 18, 2010 04:17:19 PM -0400 Tom Keiser wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR) wrote: In message <20100618093541.46bc13bc.adea...@sinenomine.net>,Andrew Deason writes: It's pretty easy to make a supergroup if it's turned on; you may not realize it

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-18 Thread Tom Keiser
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Chas Williams (CONTRACTOR) wrote: > In message <20100618093541.46bc13bc.adea...@sinenomine.net>,Andrew Deason > writes: >>It's pretty easy to make a supergroup if it's turned on; you may not >>realize it's a specific feature to turn on. Once you have done so, your

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-18 Thread Tom Keiser
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: > --On Thursday, June 17, 2010 04:12:48 PM -0500 Andrew Deason > wrote: > >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:54:25 -0500 >> Andrew Deason wrote: >> >>> And as has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, you need to wait for >>> the VG hierarchy su

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-18 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
--On Thursday, June 17, 2010 04:12:48 PM -0500 Andrew Deason wrote: On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:54:25 -0500 Andrew Deason wrote: And as has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, you need to wait for the VG hierarchy summary scan to complete, no matter how fast salvaging is or how many you do i

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-17 Thread Derrick Brashear
You're correct. The state, for example, inUse is tracked differently Derrick On Jun 17, 2010, at 8:34 PM, Steven Jenkins wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: ... My current feeling is that it would be great if we could ship both fileservers, side by side, with

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-17 Thread Steven Jenkins
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: ... >> My current feeling is that it would be great if we could ship both >> fileservers, side by side, with different executable names - but I >> haven't looked at any of the code to see how complex this would be to >> achieve. > > I haven't a

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-17 Thread Derrick Brashear
if we do this, we should consider naming the dafs servers something else. then the binaries can truly coexist and be documented as such (not just packaging-renamed) Derrick On Jun 17, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Andrew Deason wrote: On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 23:38:18 +0100 Simon Wilkinson wrote: I

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-17 Thread Christof Hanke
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 22:54:25 schrieb Andrew Deason: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 22:01:08 +0200 > > Christof Hanke wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 21:30:23 schrieb Andrew Deason: > > > And in particular, NTFS and other journalled filesystems have the > > > advantage of a journal, and pro

Re: [OpenAFS-devel] Re: [OpenAFS] Re: 1.6 and post-1.6 OpenAFS branch management and schedule

2010-06-17 Thread Christof Hanke
Am Donnerstag, 17. Juni 2010 21:30:23 schrieb Andrew Deason: > On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:59:29 -0700 > > Russ Allbery wrote: > > "Christopher D. Clausen" writes: > > > I mean I occationally see NTFS errors in the event log on Windows > > > servers. Windows doesn't take the disk offline and run a chk