Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread Linas Vepstas
Re pattern mining in general: The vision I had for pattern mining had more to do with observation, than with exploration. So, for example, a child watches an adult perform some task, and tries to copy that performance. Its easier to find out what's important by watching many performances: one

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread Linas Vepstas
On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 8:32 AM, 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog < opencog@googlegroups.com> wrote: > Shujing, > > I might start hacking the pattern miner on the master soon. Once I do that > there's is no coming back, I mean that merging the pattern miner from the > PatternMinerEmbodiment branch

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
On 06/29/2016 04:45 PM, Shujing Ke wrote: I would suggest not to merge the PatternMinerEmbodiment into the master. The mining algorithm is not better. It's just integrated with planner and the old PAI. OK, thanks for the info. Is it urgent that you need to run the pure Pattern Miner (in

[opencog-dev] Re: Natural Intelligence (NI) and Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)

2016-06-29 Thread Gaurav Gautam
Hello, I am a noob too. I want to ask a few meta questions as well: 1. Is enough known about AGI to take the discussions about its social impacts this far? I get it when people are worried about building the correct ethics into the system but I have no clear idea about how this is being done

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Outline for OpenCog tutorial

2016-06-29 Thread Gaurav Gautam
Hello Amen, Since last time, I have redone everything. I downloaded cogutils, atomspace, moses and opencog again and did a git pull to make sure that everything was up-to-date. Now, I am getting what looks like the same error from a different location. Everytime I am getting stuck at this

[opencog-dev] Natural Intelligence (NI) and Artificial General Intelligence (AGI)

2016-06-29 Thread Radh Achuthan
6/29/16 Greetings ALL I am new to this site. Recently I viewed several videos from the Singularity University Seminar on AI, 2010, including the presentation by Dr. Goertzel. Amongst others, those of Demis Hassabis and Shane Legg are noteworthy. I am familiar with the popular

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread Shujing Ke
PAI.MapInfo.h is a auto generated file by protobuf I guess. Sometimes it has some compile order dependency problems that if this file is generated later then some part of the PAI will complain about missing it. It's many year ago, it did happen before but I haven't got this problem for a long

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread Shujing Ke
I would suggest not to merge the PatternMinerEmbodiment into the master. The mining algorithm is not better. It's just integrated with planner and the old PAI. Is it urgent that you need to run the pure Pattern Miner (in the master)? I am already finishing the PatternMinerEmbodiment

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
Shujing, I might start hacking the pattern miner on the master soon. Once I do that there's is no coming back, I mean that merging the pattern miner from the PatternMinerEmbodiment branch will be a huge pain, so if that's the plan please let me know. I won't start touching it till I get your

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
Just so you know I manage to run the pattern miner test! Nil On 06/29/2016 02:01 PM, Nil Geisweiller wrote: On 06/29/2016 01:49 PM, Nil Geisweiller wrote: Anyway, if the pattern miner on that branch isn't better I obviously prefer to use the one on the master. Just haven't figured out what

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
On 06/29/2016 01:49 PM, Nil Geisweiller wrote: Anyway, if the pattern miner on that branch isn't better I obviously prefer to use the one on the master. Just haven't figured out what is the missing function corresponding to that symbol _ZN7opencog11OBJECT_NODEE, but I should soon. I feel the

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread Ben Goertzel
Nil, among other factors, she is using a lot of the old Embodiment code that you deleted from the master branch... However, the Pattern Matcher itself should not rely on any of this old Embodiment code, so I think she could likely merge her improved PM into master... What she is doing (among

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
Apparently this branch was started a year ago. Shujing, what prevents you from merging it into the master? Nil On 06/29/2016 10:45 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote: True... though I wonder what incompatibilities that branch has, as compared to master... On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:39 PM, AmeBel

[opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread AmeBel
Hi, FYI, the in-development patterminer can be found on the PatternMinerEmbodiment branch @ opencog/opencog/ repo. On Wednesday, June 29, 2016 at 3:16:13 PM UTC+8, Nil wrote: > > Well, I haven't moved past this issue, I think this other error is just > a different manifestation of the same

[opencog-dev] Re: Running the pattern miner

2016-06-29 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
Well, I haven't moved past this issue, I think this other error is just a different manifestation of the same problem... Nil On 06/29/2016 10:00 AM, Nil Geisweiller wrote: Actually, I've moved past that issue (I didn't use the right conf), but I've got another, perhaps more worrisome