Archetype Naming proposals - do we need V0?

2014-10-03 Thread Diego Boscá
We already had that kind of premade patterns implemented in the editor. You can even start creating an archetype with a pattern. But that's got nothing to do with versioning ;D 2014-10-03 20:54 GMT+02:00 Bert Verhees : > On 03-10-14 20:27, David Moner wrote: > > > >> >> >> I would incorporate also

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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
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2014-10-03 Thread Thomas Beale
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2014-10-03 Thread Sebastian Garde
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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
On 03-10-14 20:54, Bert Verhees wrote: > To really annoy people, you can refuse to do a save, and force a "save > as" with an incremented patch-number, also in the internal id. You can also, when handling files, eat the previous version and save the archetype with the new version, Except when you

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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
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2014-10-03 Thread David Moner
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2014-10-03 Thread David Moner
BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org > > ___ > openEHR-clinical mailing list > openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org > -- David Moner Cano Grupo de Inform?tica Biom?dica - IBIME Instituto ITACA http://www.ibime.upv.es http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmoner Universidad Polit?cnica de Valencia (UPV) Camino de Vera, s/n, Edificio G-8, Acceso B, 3? planta Valencia ? 46022 (Espa?a) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20141003/03aa2930/attachment.html>

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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
On 03-10-14 19:26, Ian McNicoll wrote: > Hi Bert, > > I agree that the V is redundant but if we drop it now we just give > everyone a headache, particularly the tooling people. > > However, it would also offer a different solution to Sebastian > Ionescu's problem. re idfferentiating > > i.e a lab

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2014-10-03 Thread Ian McNicoll
ts.openehr.org > -- Dr Ian McNicoll office / fax +44(0)141 560 4657 mobile +44 (0)775 209 7859 skype ianmcnicoll ian at freshehr.com Clinical modelling consultant freshEHR Director openEHR Foundation Honorary Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL BCS Primary Health Care www.phcsg.org -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20141003/601e4ce3/attachment.html>

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2014-10-03 Thread Ian McNicoll
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2014-10-03 Thread Thomas Beale
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2014-10-03 Thread Ian McNicoll
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2014-10-03 Thread Ian McNicoll
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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
On 03-10-14 15:45, Thomas Beale wrote: > the latest rules that Ian and Sebastian have worked out would mean > that if there was 1.1.3 released, then the next version of that > archetype if it goes back to development is 1.1.4-unstable, i.e. at > least the patch number has to be incremented. It c

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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
> Thanks for getting involved in this important discussion. I am on a > plane and don't have ooportunity for a full answer but it is not as > simple as u have suggested. Amongst other things You have to consider > what happens to archetype numbering when the archetype has been > published and

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2014-10-03 Thread Thomas Beale
On 03/10/2014 14:32, Bert Verhees wrote: > >> Thanks for getting involved in this important discussion. I am on a >> plane and don't have ooportunity for a full answer but it is not as >> simple as u have suggested. Amongst other things You have to consider >> what happens to archetype numbering

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2014-10-03 Thread Thomas Beale
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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
On 03-10-14 11:01, Diego Bosc? wrote: > it's also 'versi?n' in spanish ;) Spanish is a Latin-language ;-) > > 2014-10-03 10:15 GMT+02:00 Bert Verhees : >> On 03-10-14 01:36, Bert Verhees wrote: >>> org.openehr:openehr-ehr-composition.something:1.0.0 >> >> It seems wise to me to not regard the ve

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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
me.upv.es > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmoner > > Universidad Polit?cnica de Valencia (UPV) > Camino de Vera, s/n, Edificio G-8, Acceso B, 3? planta > Valencia ? 46022 (Espa?a) > > > ___ > openEHR-clinical mailing list

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2014-10-03 Thread ian.mcnic...@gmail.com
Hi Bert Thanks for getting involved in this important discussion. I am on a plane and don't have ooportunity for a full answer but it is not as simple as u have suggested. Amongst other things You have to consider what happens to archetype numbering when the archetype has been published and goe

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2014-10-03 Thread David Moner
o ITACA http://www.ibime.upv.es http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidmoner Universidad Polit?cnica de Valencia (UPV) Camino de Vera, s/n, Edificio G-8, Acceso B, 3? planta Valencia ? 46022 (Espa?a) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20141003/15177336/attachment.html>

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2014-10-03 Thread Diego Boscá
it's also 'versi?n' in spanish ;) 2014-10-03 10:15 GMT+02:00 Bert Verhees : > On 03-10-14 01:36, Bert Verhees wrote: >> >> org.openehr:openehr-ehr-composition.something:1.0.0 > > > It seems wise to me to not regard the version-indication as a part of the > archetypeId, the same for the namespace.

Archetype Naming proposals - do we need V0?

2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
On 03-10-14 01:36, Bert Verhees wrote: > org.openehr:openehr-ehr-composition.something:1.0.0 It seems wise to me to not regard the version-indication as a part of the archetypeId, the same for the namespace. The archetypeId is to indicate what the conceptual contents of the archetype is about.

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2014-10-03 Thread Bert Verhees
a the initial major version. > >> > >> > >> well I think its a bigger danger, given the level of reuse of CKM > >> archetypes, that the version ids wouldn't correct reflect the state of > the > >> archetypes. We could in theory revert everything that is not published > to > >> v0 > >> right now, and i guess that is breaking the rules for less time. But > there > >> are still some dozens of fully reviewed and published archetypes that > have > >> to retain their v1.x version anyway. So I think the only question is to > do > >> with the industry sprint archetypes. How about doing this: > >> > >> mark archetypes that have never been 'published' and are not in the > >> industry > >> sprint as v0.5.0 > >> mark the industry sprint archetypes as v1.0.0-unstable > >> leave currently published archetypes on v1.x, i.e. where they are today. > >> > >> If I receive a copy of archetypes marked like that in say the GitHub > >> mirror, > >> or through a different CKM, I don't need any further education, it's > >> obvious > >> what's going on. > >> > >> - thomas > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> openEHR-clinical mailing list > >> openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org > >> > >> > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> openEHR-technical mailing list > >> openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org > >> > >> > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Dr. Sebastian Garde > >> Dr. sc. hum., Dipl.-Inform. Med, FACHI > >> Ocean Informatics > >> > >> Skype: gardeseb > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> openEHR-technical mailing list > >> openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org > >> > >> > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> openEHR-technical mailing list > >> openEHR-technical at lists.openehr.org > >> > >> > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org > > > > ___ > > openEHR-clinical mailing list > > openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org > > > > ___ > > openEHR-clinical mailing list > > openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org > > ___ > openEHR-clinical mailing list > openEHR-clinical at lists.openehr.org > > http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/listinfo/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org -- *This e-mail message is intended exclusively for the addressee(s). Please inform us immediately if you are not the addressee.* -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/pipermail/openehr-clinical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20141003/63fba53f/attachment-0001.html>