Re: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-04 Thread Ian McNicoll
Hi Heather, I have been using an 'Anonymised person' archetype for this purpose, including a 'Vital status' element which came out of the PARENT work and European Rare Disease registry definitions. This is still in an Incubator. http://openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.1745 Ian Dr Ian McNi

RE: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-04 Thread Heather Leslie
Thanks Grahame, Knew someone would be able to provide a HL7 POV H From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Grahame Grieve Sent: Tuesday, 5 January 2016 6:29 PM To: For openEHR clinical discussions Subject: Re: Alive vs Dead FHIR - either deceas

RE: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-04 Thread Heather Leslie
Hi Heath, There are many things in the demographic archetypes that we seem to sometimes need in a clinical context. And this seems to be one. I couldn't find it in any demographic archetype on CKM - do you have one? Regards Heather From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists

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2016-01-04 Thread WILLIAM R4C
And proper HL7 v3 Deceased Indicator Boolean with true / false And the decease date can be added All in the person entity Works same as Grahame explains for FHIR. In summary If we meet someone in the real world we know he is alive. We are Modelling however and abstract from reality. Alive is a

RE: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-04 Thread Heath Frankel
Heather, The fact that a person is deceased is already represented in demographic archetypes. Regards Heath On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 11:20 PM -0800, "Heather Leslie" mailto:heather.les...@oceaninformatics.com>> wrote: Just talking it through further with Hugh. The notion of a patient being

Re: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-04 Thread Grahame Grieve
FHIR - either deceasedBoolean = false: known not to be deceased as of record date deceasedBoolean = true: known to be deceased as of record date, but date not known deceasedDate = [date] : known to have passed away on provided date CDA/RIM: same - but the names are different (and allows fo

RE: Alive vs Dead

2016-01-04 Thread Heather Leslie
Just talking it through further with Hugh. The notion of a patient being alive is only possible while they are in the room with you. As soon as they walk out the door they could drop dead. So this adds a further complication. From a pure modelling point of view: * the only reliable stat

Alive vs Dead

2016-01-04 Thread Heather Leslie
Hi everyone, Seeking some advice please. In the context of a data registry or research database to record if a person is alive or dead. Maybe there might be an alternative value of 'unsure' or 'indeterminate' as well, I guess. I'm wondering if there is any naming convention for this data eleme