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2011-03-23 Thread Heath Frankel
Hi Seref, I agree with you sediments regarding Archetypes. However, the AOM still needs to support something like this for templates, in my view this is the level where we will want to start making conditional statements about data constraints (and this is still before we get to the GUI, as I may

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2011-03-23 Thread Diego Boscá
I will suggest a new optional section on the ADL, if those conditions end in the archetype tree structure it could really be a mess. So if you just want to look for the structure you only have to ignore that section 2011/3/23 Heath Frankel : > Hi Seref, > I agree with you sediments regarding Arch

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2011-03-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Heath, As long as it is about data, I have no objection to richer semantics via additions to formalism. I've tried to avoid making comments about GUI directives in openEHR specifications in the past, but now that you have mentioned it, I consider those to be at least as evil as inheritence in XM

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2011-03-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Hi Diego, Ignoring a section of an archetype/template does not mean that the formalism is now extending its scope beyond data. It does not matter that I ignore it. If it is there, someone will use it, and send that to my system, saying that I've used this feature, so you need to do the same if you

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2011-03-23 Thread Diego Boscá
I was saying that because some of the conditions Thomas said are really clinical knowledge. I want to be able to express that one value should be always greater than another, or that a score value of a scale (norton, barthel...) is the addition of other parts of the archetype. That's what I think s

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2011-03-23 Thread Erik Sundvall
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2011-03-23 Thread gjb
On 23/03/2011 11:54, Diego Bosc? wrote: > I was saying that because some of the conditions Thomas said are > really clinical knowledge. I want to be able to express that one value > should be always greater than another, or that a score value of a > scale (norton, barthel...) is the addition of oth

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2011-03-23 Thread Bert Verhees
The idea is to implement guideline/rules etc in Archetypes. In this way you can force software to look at some conditions if some other conditions are met. As I gave an example: If bloodpressure > value -->> also look at heartbeat. Bert Op 23-03-11 00:32, Seref Arikan schreef: > Greetings, > I

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2011-03-23 Thread Bert Verhees
Some people I work with ask for this feature, I find it hard to explain why this should not be done. Can you compare it with Stored Procedures in database-applications which have the risk of bringing software-logic (f.e. from business-tier) to the database-tier, and there for often is regarded

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2011-03-23 Thread Thomas Beale
I > constraint asks to be a fertile area of research - HCI at its most > profound IMHO - not to be left to terminology services. > > [just my 2 cents] > Gavin Brelstaff - CRS4 > * * -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20110323/7cf0c4e2/attachment.html>

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2011-03-23 Thread Thomas Beale
ld still be completely distinct from the health data archetypes we use today. - thomas > Bert > * * -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.openehr.org/mailman/private/openehr-technical_lists.openehr.org/attachments/20110323/11b40169/attachment.html>

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2011-03-23 Thread Bert Verhees
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2011-03-23 Thread Seref Arikan
Sure, First, let me use this example to demonstrate the problem I'm trying to point out, and then I'll explain point out to details of the principles I'm recommending in the db domain. Including behaviour in database is a choice given to you by most of the product vendors. It may or may not lead t

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2011-03-23 Thread pablo pazos
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