Antw: Sources of information on HL7 EHR/OpenEHR

2006-09-19 Thread Grahame Grieve
ok, we have real convergence here. OpenEHR works exactly like HL7 - define a reference model with all the needed semantics, and then refine things away in constraint models (and use the refinements as a basis for composition). So the principle is the same. We can generate [class

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2006-09-19 Thread Ognian Pishev
Grahame, One of the theoretical difficulties of the debate that you are contributing so eloquently to is to separate methods proper to computing from methods defined by domain specificity. Object-oriented programming, modular design, abstract data types, etc. are fundamental principles whose

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2006-09-19 Thread Gerard Freriks
Graham, Isn 't is a matter of scope, as the thing we need to have agreement on first? Isn 't is a matter of requirements, as the thing we need to have agreement on second? Will the rest of the harmonisation process follow from that? I think that harmonising two things with substantial

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2006-09-15 Thread Grahame Grieve
Hi Tom This is not a difference; it's true of HL7 as well I think people would have a hard time finding it - where is the reference model from which you can build software? You can build it from RIM or DMIM's or Messages. Would this be a good choice? I suspect not. But let's be correct

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2006-09-15 Thread Thomas Beale
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2006-09-15 Thread Thomas Beale
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Antw: Sources of information on HL7 EHR/OpenEHR

2006-09-14 Thread Dipak Kalra
Dear William, Please note that some of the vocabulary mappings, and correspondence with the main HL7 Act specialisations are provided in 13606 Part 3. I recognise this is not the complete solution you seek, but it is a start. (The Enquiry draft of Part 3 was recently circulated to CEN Working

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2006-09-14 Thread Grahame Grieve
Hi Tom The main difference architecturally is that there in openEHR there is a reference model from which software and systems can be built. This is not a difference; it's true of HL7 as well Archetypes and templates simply designate legal configurations of instances of the reference

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2006-09-14 Thread Bert Verhees
al). well, I can't speak for the designers (I'm spending some time with him today on this subject ;-), but archetypes and HL7 models are the same thing. I can interconvert between them. The only issues are syntactical differences in things that are allowed in each language, and they

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2006-09-14 Thread Grahame Grieve
I have code to build the archetypes from the internal source of the R-MIM's rather than the schemas. I will be publishing this through eclipse shortly. I will be able to go the other way too, but both formats will need modifications for gap coverage. I am presenting changes to the RMIM diagrams

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2006-09-14 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
In een bericht met de datum 13-9-2006 23:44:53 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft Thomas.Beale at OceanInformatics.biz: The main difference architecturally is that there in openEHR there is a reference model from which software and systems can be built. Archetypes and templates simply

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2006-09-14 Thread Thomas Beale
Williamtfgoossen at cs.com wrote: Yes, it is currently not possible in the archetype editor to define the goal of an instrument, have a abstract of the evidence base in the clinical world underpinning it, work instructions, interpretation guidelines, references to the literature or

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2006-09-14 Thread Thomas Beale
Williamtfgoossen at cs.com wrote: In een bericht met de datum 14-9-2006 20:33:51 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft Thomas.Beale at OceanInformatics.biz: Hi William, Since I am not 100% sure of the details of what you want to do, I won't make any claims yet, but it seems to me that the

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2006-09-13 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
In een bericht met de datum 13-9-2006 21:25:34 West-Europa (zomertijd), schrijft odysseas at sysnetint.com: Hello, Are there any documents anywhere that describe or compare and contrast the OpenEHR initiative and the HL7 EHR effort? I have seen a couple of references to the fact

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2006-09-13 Thread Thomas Beale
The main difference architecturally is that there in openEHR there is a reference model from which software and systems can be built. Archetypes and templates simply designate legal configurations of instances of the reference model. In HL7, the data are instances of schemas that are