Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Grahame Grieve
> > > Agreed, but a third party that would just be in charge of making certain > that the blockchain is unaltered has nothing to do with the business > involved. It is a technical trusted party, and there is no true reason it > should be expensive (for example, it could publish the hash of the > bl

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Grahame Grieve
bitcoin doesn't use a reduced proof of work. That's the costly feature of it, and why it's genuinely distributed. Grahame On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 2:55 AM, Bert Verhees wrote: > On 14-11-17 16:39, Grahame Grieve wrote: > >> either you end up falling back to a central authority after all - >> >

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Philippe Ameline
Le 14/11/2017 à 16:39, Grahame Grieve a écrit : > In the healthcare related blockchain ideas or prototype > implementations I have heard about so far something different than > proof of work is used, for example proof of authority. That has > other drawbacks and challenges, but it

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Bert Verhees
On 14-11-17 16:39, Grahame Grieve wrote: either you end up falling back to a central authority after all - Can you explain why? Bitcoin, f.e. is about billions of dollars without central authority, that is one of the reasons the Chinese government prohibited the creation (although they do no

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Grahame Grieve
> > In the healthcare related blockchain ideas or prototype implementations I > have heard about so far something different than proof of work is used, for > example proof of authority. That has other drawbacks and challenges, but it > does not suffer from the same power consumption problems. > th

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Pieter Bos
In the healthcare related blockchain ideas or prototype implementations I have heard about so far something different than proof of work is used, for example proof of authority. That has other drawbacks and challenges, but it does not suffer from the same power consumption problems. Also any pu

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Bert Verhees
On 14-11-17 16:24, Seref Arikan wrote: You may want to check internet access packages in the Himalayas or Sahara before you setup shop there Bert ;) I am not really into that technical knowledge like radio-modulation or laser-light modulation. But when they communicate with the Hubble telescope

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Seref Arikan
You may want to check internet access packages in the Himalayas or Sahara before you setup shop there Bert ;) On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 3:20 PM, Bert Verhees wrote: > On 14-11-17 16:02, Philippe Ameline wrote: > >> It can currently been argued that this competition led to concentrating >> miners i

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Bert Verhees
On 14-11-17 16:02, Philippe Ameline wrote: It can currently been argued that this competition led to concentrating miners in China... but what could possibly go wrong? Bitcoin is since a few weeks prohibited in China but it seems hard to kill. But still, I don't think the use of blockchain in

Re: Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Philippe Ameline
Le 14/11/2017 à 12:31, Karsten Hilbert a écrit : >> A Blockchain is a public (or at least shared) digital notary. > ... >> transactions are more expensive without a third party, because you need >> to make the process of adding a new block "expensive enough" in order to >> make sure that the one d

Aw: Re: Blockchain

2017-11-14 Thread Karsten Hilbert
> A Blockchain is a public (or at least shared) digital notary. ... > transactions are more expensive without a third party, because you need > to make the process of adding a new block "expensive enough" in order to > make sure that the one doing it can not deploy enough computing power to > hack