Re: [openflow-discuss] Questions w.r.t Neighbour Discovery using LLDP

2014-05-20 Thread Wes Felter
right? Yes, that's right. Also, when I say 'same LLDP packet', I am thinking that SW2 should forward the LLDP packet of SW1 as received from SW1 and not of itself i.e SW2. Yes. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discu

Re: [openflow-discuss] Questions w.r.t Neighbour Discovery using LLDP

2014-05-20 Thread Wes Felter
Once LLDP packet is on wire,is the rule [2] intrinsically defaulted in the switch? Generally yes. It depends on what version of OpenFlow you're using. In general, a controller does not need to install any flows to perform LLDP discovery. The controller can just use packet out and packet in

Re: [openflow-discuss] Too small throughput of software OpenFlow switch

2014-03-11 Thread Wes Felter
On 3/11/14 12:50 PM, Slavica Tomovic wrote: I am using Reference OpenFlow software switches in my testbed. Try OVS 2.0. Also try using a faster processor, like a Celeron. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list

Re: [openflow-discuss] Details request regarding the TCP connection between switch and controller.

2014-01-16 Thread Wes Felter
Yes, the connection is bidirectional. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Getting started with OpenFlow

2013-12-14 Thread Wes Felter
See https://wiki.opendaylight.org/view/OpenDaylight_Controller:Java_API_Reference but other controllers might have better API documentation. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Fwd: QoS with Openflow Switches

2013-12-05 Thread Wes Felter
y be able to do this with meters. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] anti ip spoofing

2013-11-27 Thread Wes Felter
in this, please? What part do you need help with? Do you understand how IP source guard works? Do you have Mininet and POX installed? -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https

Re: [openflow-discuss] Fwd: QoS with Openflow Switches

2013-11-27 Thread Wes Felter
nd of QoS that meters and queues cannot implement? -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] [ASK] can/cannot openflow running on unmanage switch?

2013-11-07 Thread Wes Felter
. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] OpenFlow Switch Management Tool

2013-10-18 Thread Wes Felter
some of the network switches and a other controller responsible for the remaining. In theory OF switches should be managed using the OF-Config protocol and someone should write an OF Manager, but I don't think anybody is actually working on it. You could write one and become a hero... :-

Re: [openflow-discuss] Flow setup rate in production network

2013-09-24 Thread Wes Felter
. In an L3 network the number of flows might be equal to the number of subnets, so a small number of updates per second might be acceptable. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https

Re: [openflow-discuss] Flow setup rate in production network

2013-09-24 Thread Wes Felter
rate. The observed flow setup rate will depend on what the controller is doing; for example a network with proactive destination-based forwarding would have almost no flow setups. Until a switch fails and there will be a burst of 1,000 flow mods per second. -- Wes Felter IBM Researc

Re: [openflow-discuss] Routing over openflow networks

2013-09-13 Thread Wes Felter
as well as layer 2 switching. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Action to add the INGRESS port into the group table for multicast response

2013-09-06 Thread Wes Felter
flow mods, not group table entries. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Fwd: IEEE 802.1Q MSTP support in OpenFlow Controller

2013-08-29 Thread Wes Felter
I think, standard MSTP can be integrated with OpenFlow controller with packet-in and packet-out as mentioned by Wes Felter with some modification in flood mechanism (per Vlan port state lookup before flood) as explained in my first post but it will not get OF spec support as basic 802.1D STP

Re: [openflow-discuss] Fwd: IEEE 802.1Q MSTP support in OpenFlow Controller

2013-08-28 Thread Wes Felter
ntrol plane and entirely depend on controller. This is already possible using packet in and packet out. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/lis

Re: [openflow-discuss] Routing in OpenFlow (SDN)

2013-08-16 Thread Wes Felter
allows routing between them)? The networks can speak existing routing protocols (OSPF, IS-IS, BGP, etc.) to each other. The controllers would implement the routing control plane. See RouteFlow as an example. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin

Re: [openflow-discuss] sdn distributed controller

2013-07-29 Thread Wes Felter
/ cons of such an approach. It could be more reliable. It could be faster (due to having more hardware) or it could be slower (due to running Paxos all the time). -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Match on output port

2013-07-29 Thread Wes Felter
you can't match on it. Maybe you should describe the big picture of what you're trying to accomplish and we can give you some advice. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@list

Re: [openflow-discuss] SDN on datacenter networks.

2013-07-08 Thread Wes Felter
Ideas or suggestions are welcome. There have been about 50 papers on this topic at SIGCOMM, NSDI, HotNets, HotSDN, CoNext, ANCS, etc. in the last three or four years. If you read the latest papers you'll probably find plenty of ideas for improvements. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - A

Re: [openflow-discuss] Floodlight Static Mode

2013-06-21 Thread Wes Felter
odules. http://docs.projectfloodlight.org/display/floodlightcontroller/Configuration+HOWTO You can probably get better help with Floodlight from the Floodlight mailing list because there are more people there. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-di

Re: [openflow-discuss] slapping l2 header

2013-06-20 Thread Wes Felter
ports. OpenFlow also supports PBB but I don't know if it's implemented anywhere. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Question from OpenFlow 1.3

2013-06-11 Thread Wes Felter
ucket in the group, based on a switch-computed selection algorithm (e.g. hash on some user-configured tuple orsimple round robin). Yes, select groups should be implemented with ECMP logic (if any switch ever supports them). This will probably be clearer once the L2/L3 TTP gets released. -- Wes F

Re: [openflow-discuss] SDN & Routing Protocols

2013-05-20 Thread Wes Felter
n" routing protocol based on Paxos. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Reality check: Packet capture with OpenFlow

2013-04-02 Thread Wes Felter
igTap both implement this kind of feature. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Connectivity between openflow device and controller

2013-02-26 Thread Wes Felter
flow when i need. Right. The controller should not close an OpenFlow connection because the switch will just reopen it again. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman

[openflow-discuss] Internship opening at IBM Research - Austin

2013-01-29 Thread Wes Felter
low and a track record of publishing their research in top tier research venues. Please send resumes to me immediately. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu

Re: [openflow-discuss] State of OpenFlow Switch Performance

2013-01-22 Thread Wes Felter
ow Mods/Second 1 722 5 1219 10 1392 20 1568 Another figure of merit is the number of packet ins and outs per second the switch can handle; the G8264 can generate about 200 packet ins/s. -- Wes Felter IBM R

Re: [openflow-discuss] The impact factor of flow table size in openflow

2013-01-16 Thread Wes Felter
ble demand (which depends on control granularity). We discuss this topic in our CoNEXT paper where we use exact-match destination-based forwarding to reduce table demand. http://conferences.sigcomm.org/co-next/2012/eproceedings/conext/p49.pdf -- Wes Felter IBM Researc

Re: [openflow-discuss] Is there a routing mechanism in openflow environment?

2012-11-30 Thread Wes Felter
ogy so it isn't predefined. Once the topology is known, routing can be done with Dijkstra's algorithm. Traditional routing protocols like OSPF or BGP are generally not needed inside an OpenFlow domain, but if you want to speak those protocols to the outside world, look at Route

Re: [openflow-discuss] getting the topology of the network and input data

2012-11-19 Thread Wes Felter
read that code to see how it works. -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-discuss mailing list openflow-discuss@lists.stanford.edu https://mailman.stanford.edu/mailman/listinfo/openflow-discuss

Re: [openflow-discuss] Implementing VLANs using Openflow

2012-11-12 Thread Wes Felter
not have an ARP table. Your controller needs to snoop all ARPs and track host locations itself. Once you've done that, it sounds like you know how to build the appropriate forwarding tree(s). -- Wes Felter IBM Research - Austin ___ openflow-disc

Re: [openflow-discuss] OpenFlow Protocol Barrier Messages

2012-10-11 Thread Wes Felter
true, how about the ACKs used in TCP layer? A TCP ACK only indicates that the packet was received by the TCP stack; it does not indicate that any processing has been done. Also, TCP ACKs aren't really visible at the socket layer, so the controller won't even know if the data has been AC

Re: [openflow-discuss] Use Case for Openflow Multiple Flow Tables

2012-07-31 Thread Wes Felter
nning of OpenFlow time: http://www.openflow.org/documents/OpenFlow_1_1_Multiple_Tables_06_22_2010.pdf Also, switch chips have multiple tables, so it seems simpler to expose them as multiple tables. Since no one has bothered to implement this we haven't yet discovered how painful it will be

Re: [openflow-discuss] SDN data plane

2012-05-30 Thread Wes Felter
. If the answer is "yes", then what if applications require different MAC or even PHY mechanisms? OpenFlow 1.x is somewhat biased towards Ethernet; people should make proposals to ONF if they want support for other protocols. Or maybe you can just use OXMs.